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Postby briachek » Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:56 pm

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Postby rdale » Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:31 am

Min-raise = Monster?

With some opponents it definitely does, and you should be folding more to these guys, even it does open you up to being cheaply bluffed by them. The fact remains they are likely to not be bluffing a majority of the time and folding is the more profitable play if you aren't strong enough re-raise.

Everyone else. I at least attempt to look them up and get to a cheap showdown to figure out what they are playing like that. I don't mind losing or winning a smallish to medium sized pot to figure this information out on my own dime. But I play six max, and find it more valuable to know this now, and who knows I might even win the pot. Considering that most opponents don't vary their play, I will consider this information as fairly solid until I have reason to believe otherwise.

On a K86 board when I have KQo and I get min raised by the cutoff, he might very well hold KJ A8 99 79. My position stinks, but someone that min raises on the flop probably isn't going to blast you out of the hand at the turn and you can make up your mind if your hand is worth a re-raise. If he prices his own draw with the bet on the turn I'm most likely going to raise and fold to a big reraise, if he bets the pot I'm likely to let it go, less than the pot I will probably look him up and hope for a hand that I can beat.

I go back to the first paragraphs strategy if I look them up and find that min raise = monster. Letting it go or calling too much for a weak raise too often are definite leaks, but understanding your opponent will settle this most of the time.
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Postby briachek » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:27 am

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Postby k3nt » Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:46 pm

I love people who consistently minraise monsters. It makes life so easy.

I had a terrific read on this one guy that he minraised his best hands. He also loved to minraise preflop with pairs of all sorts. I limp in with KJ, he minraises preflop, I call with KJ. Flop is T9x. I bet 2x the minbet into him, he minraises, I call. I'm putting him on AA or KK, chance of TT or 99. Turn is a blank, but I do it again: tiny bet, minraise, call. River brings my queen and I have the nuts. I check, he bets, I'm all-in, and of course he calls because he has a monster. So easy. :D
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Postby briachek » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:07 pm

true. you find out he has a monster but I still wouldn't chase my gutshot unless you KNOW you can control the size of the pot and then stack him if you hit (provided he has enough money to make it worth it).
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Postby T-Rod » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:33 am

Not to drag this out too far....

I'm wondering if min raise=monster is far less applicable at 6-max where I mostly play. My gut says yes which is why i run into it so often as not a monster, but a dumb player not knowing odds, or that TPGK is not a monster, etc.

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Postby briachek » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:22 am

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