After using PT to analyze my ring game stats, i've wondered how effective it would be to only play any pair, any suited ace from LP, and AK. This would give a VP$IP of about 10% and of course anyone with PT would pick up on this, and a few good players, but how common is that at NL25 at Party?

Any thoughts on anyone who has taken a similiar approach to the game? The only reason i'm asking is if it IS profitable, it would be very easy to 4 or 8 table using this strat for somebody without PT or for someone new to the game..

I know applying a concept like this at higher limits (NL100+) would get you absoloutely slaughtered, but at such low stakes with such a high % of fish, I think it might work.

you would probably still make a decent profit although playing too tight would lose out on a lot of value

Bri, how much more can he add to this list?

Big Suited Connectors like KJs or KQs.
Suited Connector 1 gappers 65s and up in MP and 2-3 gappers in LP.

What else here? Or do you not agree with these?

Also whats the strategy with playing a weak Ace in LP with no callers so far?
This would depend on the table of course but.........

Theres nothing wrong with that strategy as long as you are only using it while you are a beginner and learning all the fine points of NL.

It will keep you out of alot of trouble as learn how to make the mst money of ouf your sets, how to fold overpairs, bet or raise draw (in the case you would only have nut flush draws).

You will definately be mising out on value from other hands and wont get paid off as well since they will know you dont tend to have medium strength hands like KJ on a Kxx flop, but like I said these are the trouble hands that take more finesse and you will be staying out of these situations.

You can win with that at Limit and NL, specially if you stay at party. i have been playing at absoluet and PokeStars lately and the game qualityl is much higher. Stay at party and look for profitable tables, where players are eager to " gamble it out"!!

AlexMR.

Alex I hope you're not talking about Stars' $50 NL games being 'higher quality', because I'm in one sitting with a bunch of absolute calling stations and people who bet .50 into $5 pots and then minraise each other.. Oh jesus...

And this deck is soooooo cold, too.. brrrrrr.

I can't remember what Party's like it's been so long since I played there. Don't people go all-in with nuttin' or at the very most TPNK and slowplay everything else

Tetsuo,

I only deposited 65 bucks to play the last BTP touney. I am using the remaining money to play NL$10!!! and have played some NL$25. Even at NL$10 the players are better than Party´s. That is not much to say: They are bad, more to the weak-tight side, but they are way better than Party. I m not saying they are near good. Most of them suck but the profitable calling station filled table is not easy to find at Stars. Dont you agree?

The same with AbsolutePoker. I am signing up at UltimateBet any time now. I have heard the players are very much alike Stars´...

AlexMR.

Yeah, I've always found Stars to be the most frustrating site.

Prima is the best IMO, and I normally play there, but I'm really wanting to get the better of these muthas on Stars, eventually.

But maybe I should just give up and go back to the super-weak Prima tables..

I'm kinda new so sorry if I missed something but regarding the play at Party vs Stars etc, if the players at Party are that horrible, why not play there?

Are you asking me?

I'm wanting to stay at Stars for now, as I'm kind of used to it and I'm playing about with my strategy. Playing with my strategy and completely changing the type of table isn't going to work for me right now.

Gotcha. But I mean in general, wouldn't one want to play with weaker players...wouldnt that be more profitable in the long run? If Party is that much weaker then it would make sense to take their money rather than grind it out elsewhere?

With all that said, I too have recently started playing at Stars off and on. What kind of strategy do you employ there that is different from that at Party, if any?

Well, I'm certainly not the one to be asking, dude. I'm having to extensively redesign my game after a fairly long absence from poker, and a bit of an asskicking when I recently returned.

But from what I remember you have to grit your teeth and call/go all-in a lot at Party even with TPTK at the lower limits - it's quite a ride. People go all-in on the flop with total garbage that missed, all sorts. Lots of people seem like they were weaned on TV tournament poker last time I played there.

I hope someone else responds to give you a better answer.

I've play 1K hands there now over the past two weeks.

1. Players are loose/passive for the most part. They call half the time and fold to aggression. Hard to get paid off for good starters.

2. One or two players are LAGs. They play every hand and run off the weak players. You end up winning a lot of $4 pots--including your $2 raise--and losing the occasional buy in when the idiots hit something. And they trade hitting. Almost implied collusion, sometimes.

I did better at Prima, but am using PT and GT+ to try to improve my game. Prima $10NL was a nice game for me...but $2/hr isn't very profitable. (Didn't play multi-table there, so I might have done better doing that.)

PP isn't that bad, honestly. It's just bad enough to make you improve your game. Long term, I'd say that's a definite +EV.

Oh...I find day games better than evening. Dunno why.

CJ