Im not even sure what fold equity is. I thought i did, but then i hear people use the term in instances where i didnt think it made sense.

fuggit..My brains too full anyways.

During the WSOP broadcast, Fergusen was a guest and they took an e-mail from a viewer asking him to explain Fold Equity. Fergusen was fumbling then said he doesn't know what that is. Phil Gordon said "yes you do" and tried to give him an example, but Fergusen said that he had never heard that term before. It really didn't sound like he was kidding. Shocking.

It is not surprising when a fish doesn't know something, but when experienced players don't, you have to be a little surprised.

A guy playing today in the Venetian freeroll didn't know what M was. He's not a tournament player, so it's understandable. But we just naturally assume people know what we know, esp when they are "better" players than we are.

I had a D-list poker celebrity in my limo a couple weeks ago who didn't understand the pot odds of drawing to a pair after the flop and would have called a bet in a hand that she would have been way, way behind and should be folding. By the time I got her out of the car, I was ready to drive into a bridge abutment. She knew absolutely NO theory, yet is playing blinds over my buyins, has a 400K bankroll , endorsements, and an ego the size of the Amazon room at the RIO. "I don't worry about math. I play the psychology." I can see that. She put me on driving tilt.

How some of these people can be "winning" while knowing virtually nothing is way beyond my simple mind's comprehension.

Most people DON'T know what M is. Everyone, on the other hand, knows how many rounds around the table they can last... just cause you call it something else doesn't mean it's revolutionary and every winning player must know it's name.