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[Proplayer44]

A few weeks ago I started a thread about this Maniac at my table and how I tried to take him down going all in with AK and 1010. He beat me with AK and 44 hitting flushes each time.

The instructions on how to beat a maniac was to call more often and raise less. This guys voluntary was 84%. His AGG factor was 3.38.

I tried a few times but was unsuccessful as he would often push all in on the flop when I hit nothing. Finally a hand came around and I nailed him. Now usually I don't play like this and by the end I thought I might have lost to a flush or straight but here it is. It must have bugged him that I simply called him down and didn't raise back as he left the table two hands later.

TheMint7 is at seat 0 with $19.60.
TexasTD is at seat 1 with $16.25.
Proplayer44 is at seat 2 with $14.25.
rtstrtst is at seat 3 with $20.08.
CcBayChk22 is at seat 4 with $17.01 (sitting out).
xuer16 is at seat 5 with $2.50.
nobodycool is at seat 6 with $8.70.
Weasel48867 is at seat 7 with $4.65.
kaozar is at seat 8 with $7.37.
Sampai is at seat 9 with $3.60.
The button is at seat 3.

xuer16 posts the small blind of $.05.
nobodycool posts the big blind of $.10.

TheMint7: -- --
TexasTD: -- --
Proplayer44: Tc Th
rtstrtst: -- --
xuer16: -- --
nobodycool: -- --
Weasel48867: -- --
kaozar: -- --
Sampai: -- --

Pre-flop:

Weasel48867 folds. kaozar folds. Sampai folds.
TheMint7 folds. TexasTD raises to $.35. Proplayer44
calls. rtstrtst folds. xuer16 folds. nobodycool
folds.

Usually I fold 1010 to a raise like that preflop

Flop (board: Ts 6h 5d):

TexasTD bets $.85. Proplayer44 calls.

Turn (board: Ts 6h 5d 8h):

TexasTD bets $2.55. Proplayer44 calls.

River (board: Ts 6h 5d 8h 7h):

TexasTD bets $7.65. Proplayer44 calls.



Showdown:

TexasTD shows Jh Td.
TexasTD has Jh Td Ts 8h 7h: a pair of tens.
Proplayer44 shows Tc Th.
Proplayer44 has Tc Th Ts 8h 7h: three tens.


Hand #8515908-403 Summary:

$1.10 is raked from a pot of $22.95.
Proplayer44 wins $21.85 with three tens.
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It was a great to be able to just relax and wait and then nail him by calling his every raise in this hand.

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[sondring]

Nice.

Was that at the UB $10NL tables? Or maybe the 25's?

I think I've played against that guy before. Don't have PT in front of me now, but I think his VP$IP was like 90% for the 30 hands I had on him.

[GodlikeRoy]

Definitely a risky play against a LAG with that board and that's one scary river bet to call with all those draws out there... One thing i'll comment on though, you said you'd normally fold TT preflop to a 3.5BB raise? That should be an instant call with any pocket pair as you have approximately a 12% chance to hit a set and you should easily be able to get back more than what you put in when you do hit it.

[Proplayer44]

Yes UB $10

[Proplayer44]

So am I still ok to just call the bb with 1010? I was losing money raising pre with 1010 so I started to slow down and just call. I first started this with my 99 as I was in the red with them and it is working I'm now in the green. Same with 1010. Can I call 5xbb pre or 6xbb? At what point should I fold?

[GodlikeRoy]

There's something called the 5/10 rule. What it means is that if the raise is less than 5% of the shortest stack (either you or the person raising) then you should always call. if the raise is more than 10%, you should always fold. If it is anywhere in the middle, then you have to use your judgement to decide whether or not you will be able to get the raiser's entire stack if you do flop a set.

A good example is if you know someone to be a very tight player who only raises 1% of hands and you see them raise it to $0.80 preflop. Assuming you both have stacks of $10, if you hold 33 then you can also assume that you will be able to get his entire stack if you hit your set (you're putting him in aces or kings). Therefore, at 8% it is still a call. If the player was extremely loose however, you should fold.

Does that make sense?

And there is nothing wrong with limping in with TT if you're uncomfortable raising with it. I would do the same with JJ and even sometimes QQ when I first started out. It isn't optimal for getting the most value out of the cards, but if you were losing with them then you should at least be able to turn a profit by limping and playing only when you hit a set or have overs.

[Proplayer44]

Great help, I understand. Thanks very much.

[iceman5]