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Bad read ouch

Postby AlamedaMike » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:56 am

The $200 NL game that I play is somewhat a loose game and you can win or lose a $200 stack in a flash.

This was a bad read by me which lead to a bad play.

I was MP with a very marginal hand [As] [5s] and called a $12 raise from the BB after I limped. :oops:

I know that this is ill advised but my question is not the wisdom or lack thereof preflop but my flop play. :roll:

The flop was [Ad] [8d] [5d] and the BB lead out with a $50 bet into a $60 pot. The struck me as a hand like [As] [Kd] rather than [8s] [8c]. I have played with this player sever times and know him pretty well. I played a flopped flush vs. my set with him one time before. I have at least 25 hours of play againt him. He had been up most of the night and been drinking beer. But, he is still a force to be reckoned with.

In any event. I had $160 since I had just sat down and he had about $600 or so.

I had two pair and I am sure he did not have the flush but there was a good chance he had the [Kd].

If he had [Kd] and [Kh] then I was ahead. If he had the [Ac] [Kd] then it was a coin toss pretty much.

If he had a set or a flush I was in big trouble.

I went with my 2 reads and pushed my $160 into the $110 pot. He said later that he though I had the flush but he figured he had outs. - He of course, called.

Now, please tell me how bad this was :oops: and if I should give up poker or just try harder? BTW, I ended up winning for the day and did beat him a few times. Flopping trip Queens with the ace kicker helped. :D

I played 3 hands poorly and this is one of them - one other screw up was the Queen Nine. The third was I flopped a set of 5's and did not get full value from it.

His hand is in white below.


He had Ace Eight for two pair and won the pot.
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Postby AlamedaMike » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:08 pm

As an aside note on this game which really depends on the player. I was able to more than double up with [Ks] [Kd] against [Js] [Jh].

I raised $15 UTG and got 4 callers. The flop came Ten high and I went all-in with $150 and got one call.

I totally bear my soul on this forum and the people here are kind and gentle with me. True corrective criticism and never mean or rude. Much more than I can say about other forums.

I appreciate it very much. THANKS
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Postby kennyg » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:36 pm

This is why you don't call A5 for a significant preflop raise ;-)

The way the hand played out, I would have called the flop and moved all-in on the turn, barring a diamond. Reason being... if he has something like A[Kd], my odds are much better to win the hand when the turn is a blank. I wouldn't have gotten away from the hand either.

The real issue is the call preflop.
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Postby AlamedaMike » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:18 pm

Some days you are the bug and some days you are the windshield. :D
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Postby AlamedaMike » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:06 pm

Thanks sports - I mucked like I think I should have.
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