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JJ against a preflop maniac on my right

Postby Stoneburg » Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:07 pm

The guy on my right has been raising such monsters as K7s and OJo in early position and has a pfr of 20+. I've been waiting for a hand to smack him with and decide that JJ is strong enough. I have about $30 and he has me covered.

Stoneburg : Calls for 0.20 [Jc] [Jd]
ess-ess : Raises for 0.80
swedesvess : Calls for 0.80
hjulbord : Folds
Sto82 : Calls for 0.80
Bloop : Folds
northerndunk : Folds
Qzz : Folds
xanz : Folds
Amius : Folds
Stoneburg : Raises for 6.00
ess-ess : Calls for 5.40
swedesvess : Folds
Sto82 : Folds

Flop $14.30 [Ts] [8d] [8h]
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Stoneburg : Bets 9.20
ess-ess : Folds


Barring a set that is about as good as the flop gets for me I think. His tendency is to raise with face cards so he *should* be stuck with two overcards now, should I bet smaller in order to get him to chase?
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Re: JJ against a preflop maniac on my right

Postby rdale » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:19 pm

3/4 pot is about as right as it gets. I would have bet about that and been fine with a call or fold. You know these guys will call you all in preflop if they call 6.
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Postby shoesnatcher » Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:17 am

Against a maniac to my right I usually won't risk being all in preflop with less than 10's or AK. Normally I try to avoid maniacs because in my experience they have hurt more than helped my bankroll. Here's why I think this:

1. The maniac is raising so much it makes it impossible to justify playing anything but the most premium of hands for me I would only play 10-A's and AK, so forget about making sets (your bread and butter at NL), seeing the flop with suited connectors, AQ, etc.

2. If you decide to take on the maniac with say 10-Q's you could well run into an opponent with aces or kings (if there are others to act after you and the maniac), or possible face calls from others who are 'reacting' to the maniac. With pocket pairs such as 10's,J's,Q's and AKo you really don't want multiway action.

Because maniacs cramp my style of play and put my stack at risk from opponents acting after me, I will normally allow other opponents to deal with the maniac. If the maniac becomes such a problem I can't play pairs, big overcards, etc and does not go broke after a while I just move on to another table. When it comes between my ego and my bankroll, the bankroll always wins.
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Postby laynegt » Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:51 am

definitely make a good sized-bet here, say 2/3-full pot. you figure he's got an overcard or two and your JJ is too vulnerable to get cute w/. make him pay.
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Postby iceman5 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:57 am

Nice play. You were right, he had junk, so you cant expect to get anymore out of him unless he had KT or something like that.
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Re: JJ against a preflop maniac on my right

Postby Stoneburg » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:04 pm

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