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KK - Ace on turn

Postby briachek » Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:17 pm

Being out of position killed me here but then it would have been a tough river decision. He raised and called my flop big bet so he either can't drop his AK or has a set. He was loose (35%) with average aggression numbers. How do you play this? Any bet on the turn would commit me.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (9 handed)

MP2 ($49.3)
MP3 ($48.75)
CO ($48)
Button ($118.62)
SB ($60.85)
Hero ($48.75)
UTG ($126.82)
UTG+1 ($53.17)
MP1 ($87.88)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [Kc], [Kd].
UTG raises to $1, 7 folds, Hero raises to $5, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($10.25) [Tc], [7d], [5h] (2 players)
Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10.

Turn: ($30.25) [Ad] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $20, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $50.25

Results in white below:
No showdown. UTG wins $50.25.
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Re: KK - Ace on turn

Postby AlamdeaMike » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:40 am

Don't lose your entire stack in an unraised pot or with only one pair.
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Postby Yogadude » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:40 am

I recall watching an experienced NL player at The Bike play a hand similiar to this. The button raised and this good player re-raised out of the blind with QQ. The button called and the flop was something like 2 5 7 with 2 spades. Good player bet the pot on the flop and was called. Turn was a non-spade ace and the good player fired out another large pot-sized bet with just QQ. The button was visibly shaken by this bet and assumed the good player had an ace and folded (i dont know what he had). I said to the the good player, "AK?", he showed QQ and said, "What kind of hand can he have that would have an Ace in it after calling my flop bet?"

You should not be scared of a turned Ace when you are the pre-flop raiser and have an underpair. You opponent is equally scared of it and you should lead at the pot again. I would fold here if raised but I would expect my opponent to fold 75% of the time after I bet. If he calls I would check the river and play from there. In a raised and re-raised pot the range of hands of your opponent is probably 99-QQ, AK or AQ. your hand is ahead of 4 out of 6 of these hands so I think it is fair to assume your opponent dosent have an ace. If you know anything about your player you need to take into account his "craziness" factor. Is he nutty enough to be taking a card off for a pot-sized bet just to hit an overcard?

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Postby AlamdeaMike » Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:42 am

Don't lose your entire stack in an unraised pot or with only one pair.
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Postby Yogadude » Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:05 pm

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Postby geewhiz » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:45 am

I agree - You *have* to bet on this turn.

He may have called you on the flop thinking you had AK. Now the turn comes an A. He's beat with an underpair now whether you have an overpair or AK.

Bet out and fold to a raise.
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Postby kennyg » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:23 am

I bet the turn...then check the river i he calls. You want to stay aggressive to try and win the pot.

If there is more then one opponent that called your flop bet..there's alot more merit to checking the turn. but heads up i think you need to give it another shot.
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