Dont bet that flop. A JT9 flop is going to hit alot of hands. Youre bet is not going to win the pot. Now youre out of postion with bottom pair on a coordinated board which is a bad spot to be in.

You dont really have an open ended draw because someone probably has a K in the hand which means a Q will cost you alot of money. If 7 hits, nobody will pay you off.

Your hand is junk. Check / fold the flop if anyone bets.

you get no sympathy from me xaston. I was the first to consistently get dissed as everyone agree with kenny and ice even though I would give the advice first. Kenny would even say "I agree with briachek" and the very next post would be "I agree with kenny"

OK - so I messed this hand up pretty good. This guy had been laying down to me all day on the turn so I decided to fire out $25 trying to get a fold telling myself I would give it up on the river if he called.

He called. At this point Im still not sure what to put him on - he was so tight the only hands I could really put him on limping utg were medium maybe small pairs - which he would have folded if he missed. So I put him on maybe 88 or maybe even a hand like JQ - with the straight draw out there I figured he would have raised me by now then, so maybe he flopped a straight with KQ? These are valid hands but again I didn think this guy would play these types of hands UTG. He didnt raise so I wasnt to worry about AK or KK - this ruled out pretty much any K so I figured if my Q did hit I was good.

So he calls the turn and the river is the Q - I made the straight but Im still not sure where I am - hoping that he just has 88 I bet his last $60, he calls it and shows me that he was "slowplaying" KK. So yea I messed this hand up pretty good and should have shut down after the flop.

But is my reasoning that he doesnt have a K by limping UTG valid? This is one of the main reasons I fired again on the turn thinking that my Q out was good if he doesnt have a K..

"But is my reasoning that he doesnt have a K by limping UTG valid?"

Short answer...."no, its not valid". In live games at these stakes, people will limp with anything anywhere.

That is why they call it the suckers end.

When drawing try to draw to the good end and take note of people that will overplay the suckers end of straights, they are good source of profit.