M? Well, you have to make up your mind maybe whether you want to make the money in a freeroll, or go deep into the final table. If you're playing for ITM, fold, if you're playing to make real $$, raise - or call and push any non A flop.

It wasn't a freeroll. It was $24+$2 or a $26 token.

I should have looked at it from his perspective too. Harrington does this all the time in his books.

So he's UTG, he has a M of over 20, and he leads out for 1/3 his stack. We're not in the money or on the bubble yet. There is absolutely no reason for him to make a move just to make a move. What hands would he risk 1/3 his stack on?

Well, if I were UTG, I wouldn't even risk 1/3 my stack on Aces. In fact, the only time I vary my bet size is when there is more than one limper into a pot. I would have bet my usual 4-5x BB with aces UTG.

But if I had to bet 1/3 of my stack, I'd only do it with Aces.

So there's the core of the mistake: I wasn't thinking about his hand, only mine. Fishy call. I guess I can't change my avatar yet... :S

So what are you saying, you folded them or not? If you didn't, did he have AA?

I called. Why would I fold? He was only screaming at me that he had AA...

He's range of hands go from a bluff, to TT-AA, AK, AQ, AJ


I think you give your opponents to much credit. If you can't play KK late in a tourney...what can you play??

I folded QQ today under almost the *exact* same circumstances. Didn't have much read on him but his and the tables average raises were 2-4x the BB, suddenly he pushes in more like 9bb under the gun. I'm on the button with QQ and about 30bb... I figure that I am a coinflip at the very best and most likely a huge dog, so I fold. Not as tought as folding KK obviously, but it still takes a bit of a will effort to hit the fold button

QQ and KK are completely different "monsters."