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Top two pair vs. Set

Postby MHFlush » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:21 am

NL 50, four limpers before me, I limp, too, in LP with QJo, blinds limp also.

Flop: QJ3 rainbow. EP bets 0.50, MP raises 4.50, I reraise to 10.50. Everybody folds to MP, who raises to 21 (we both have full stacks), I reraise all-in, he calls. He has 33 and wins a large pot.

My own analysis: I put him on AQ, KQ, QJ, 33 or KT. QQ or JJ is very unlikely because of the preflop limping. I beat AQ, KQ and KT, be equal with QJ and only lose to 33.

Bad play or justifyied?

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Postby Rhound50 » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:06 am

Top 2 vs bottom set is usually going to cost you a stack. Especially in NL50 where half of the players are total muppets. Dont beat yourself up over this one, like you said more than half the time you are going to be up against AQ, KQ, KJ, AA, KK, or even J10.
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Postby kennyg » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:40 am

yeah as usual i agree with everything rhound said.
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Postby T-Rod » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:10 am

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Postby briachek » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:51 am

I don't know about this guys. We are supposed to be trying to sniff outs sets here and I think this is one of the more obvious ones unless this guy is a completel muppet. He raised a bet and wasn't scared at all by your reraise and put in another raise himself so you know he's going to the end. What could he really have here? Q3, J3? As I said, if he is a muppet that is continuing the hand with a draw like KT or AQ, I think he would just push when it got back to him. He would probably even push QJ. However, he reraised instead showing he didn't want to scare you out. This eliminates his hand to QJ or a set (being 33 as the obvious one). I fold the flop to the reraise but hey, I'm weak/tight but just looking at the action before I read the results just screamed 33 to me.
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Postby Rhound50 » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:09 pm

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Postby briachek » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:41 pm

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Postby ua1176 » Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:14 am

against a loose/semi loose player....you (and i) probably go broke here. against a tight player i think you can lay it down....though i'd have a tough time doing it.

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