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Postby rickjr82 » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:05 pm

i should of payed more attention to stack sizes because i didnt have the folding equity i thought i felt the prefop raiser had aces or kings and was scared and would lay them down too bad the other guys didnt feel the same they did use all of their time time so at least they thought about folding

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed)

Button ($8.85)
SB ($35.55)
BB ($21.20)
UTG ($7.75)
UTG+1 ($36.70)
UTG+2 ($18.04)
MP1 ($67.83)
MP2 ($20.20)
Hero ($52.50)
CO ($24.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with [Jh], [Th]. SB posts a blind of $0.10. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1, Hero calls $1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.35) [9s], [7h], [Qc] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3, UTG+1 raises to $8, MP2 calls $8, Hero calls $5, BB calls $5.

Turn: ($36.35) [6c] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $35, BB calls $12.20 (All-In), UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $11.20 (All-In).

River: ($94.75) [Js] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $94.75

Results in white below:
BB has Qd Ac (one pair, queens).
MP2 has Tc Jd (one pair, jacks).
Hero has Jh Th (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: BB wins $71.95. Hero wins $22.80.
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Postby T-Rod » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:16 pm

Unless you're opponent is a poker genius (which won't happen at $25NL), a check raise is almost always a monster. Very, very few people checkraise at this level. This guy had TPTK but its usually more.

When UTG+1 check raises, gets called and its your turn to act with another to follow you have to know that at that point you are certainly behind.

That being said, don't push the turn. You're way behind, UTG+1 is very confident in his hand, lots of people are in the hand... all of which means zero fold equity. Checking gives you a free card too.
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Postby shobute » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:37 pm

Again agree with trodgers.
Seems like I'm being his echo today.

It's worth stressing: don't bet the turn here.
There's too many people to expect them all to fold, and all you have is an OESD.

And what they had tells you volumes: TPTK was the strongest hand.
Don't bluff these guys, just wait for your strong hands and they will pay.
Which is obvious from the way they played this.
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Postby Rhound50 » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:00 pm

This is a good play or a bad play depending on the situation, in this case I dont like it. You have to look at the size of the pot and the size of these players stacks. There is almost 30 in the pot and both BB and MP2 both have only $10-$12 left. Obviously you are going to need to improve to win, and your chances of both of them folding is almost none. Take your free card and pray you hit one of your outs on the river.
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