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Four misplayed NL50 hands for evaluation

Postby MHFlush » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:36 am

I show to you 4 NL50 hands where I lost money with good preflop/postflop cards. Please feel free to comment them.
I do not say anything for the moment :wink:

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HAND1

** All Down the Line [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- PoeticP sitting in seat 1 with $45.30

- doktron sitting in seat 2 with $50.90

- ohforf sitting in seat 3 with $22.50

- Supermanneb sitting in seat 4 with $25.90

- scoot81 sitting in seat 5 with $46.50

- KimDaJoung sitting in seat 6 with $39.92 [Dealer]

- michelle19 sitting in seat 7 with $46.50

- HERO sitting in seat 8 with $49.50

- Kryddan49 sitting in seat 9 with $50.00 [Sitting out]

- ssco123 sitting in seat 10 with $41.15

michelle19 posted the small blind - $0.25

HERO posted the big blind - $0.50

** Dealing card to HERO: [Ad] [As]

ssco123 called - $0.50

PoeticP raised - $1.00

Kryddan49 reconnected

doktron called - $1.00

ohforf folded

Supermanneb folded

scoot81 called - $1.00

KimDaJoung folded

michelle19 called - $1.00

HERO raised - $7.00

ssco123 called - $7.00

PoeticP called - $7.00

doktron folded

scoot81 folded

michelle19 folded

** Dealing the flop: [5c] [Jd] [Tc]

HERO bet - $18.00

ssco123 went all-in - $34.15

PoeticP went all-in - $38.30

HERO called - $38.30

PoeticP shows: [Ts] [Kd]

ssco123 shows: [5d] [5h]

** Dealing the turn: [9h]

** Dealing the river: [4h]

HERO wins $8.30 from side pot 1

ssco123 wins $123.45 from the main pot



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HAND2

** All Down the Line [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- Coldshark sitting in seat 1 with $49.00

- doktron sitting in seat 2 with $47.15 [Dealer]

- ohforf sitting in seat 3 with $21.75

- Supermanneb sitting in seat 4 with $24.90

- scoot81 sitting in seat 5 with $41.25

- KimDaJoung sitting in seat 6 with $48.62

- michelle19 sitting in seat 7 with $45.25

- HERO sitting in seat 8 with $49.50

- Kryddan49 sitting in seat 9 with $49.75

- bauwerk sitting in seat 10 with $50.75

ohforf posted the small blind - $0.25

Supermanneb posted the big blind - $0.50

** Dealing card to HERO: [Kh] [Ks]

scoot81 folded

KimDaJoung folded

michelle19 folded

HERO raised - $2.00

Kryddan49 folded

bauwerk called - $2.00

Coldshark folded

doktron called - $2.00

ohforf folded

Supermanneb folded

** Dealing the flop: [6c] [Jd] [9c]

HERO bet - $6.00

bauwerk raised - $12.00

doktron folded

HERO called - $12.00

** Dealing the turn: [Ac]

HERO checked

bauwerk bet - $12.00

HERO folded

bauwerk mucks: [Js] [Jh]
bauwerk wins $41.25 from the main pot


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HAND3


** Flying Car [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- Davidi85 sitting in seat 1 with $68.99

- wolfheat sitting in seat 2 with $72.14

- HERO sitting in seat 3 with $59.45 [Dealer]

- Roothman sitting in seat 4 with $109.76

- lase6969 sitting in seat 5 with $49.50

- darthfrys sitting in seat 6 with $34.75

- superkyrre sitting in seat 7 with $76.40

- ITF_Daddy sitting in seat 8 with $177.23

- XMistriX sitting in seat 9 with $23.90

- mic83 sitting in seat 10 with $51.95

Roothman posted the small blind - $0.25

lase6969 posted the big blind - $0.50

** Dealing card to HERO: [3c] [3h]

darthfrys folded

superkyrre called - $0.50

ITF_Daddy folded

XMistriX called - $0.50

mic83 folded

Davidi85 called - $0.50

wolfheat folded

HERO called - $0.50

Roothman called - $0.50

lase6969 checked

** Dealing the flop: [9d] [3s] [4c]

Roothman checked

lase6969 checked

superkyrre checked

XMistriX bet - $2.00

Davidi85 folded

HERO called - $2.00

Roothman folded

lase6969 folded

superkyrre raised - $6.00

XMistriX folded

HERO raised - $18.00

superkyrre went all-in - $69.90

HERO folded

superkyrre mucks: [Ks] [Kd]

superkyrre wins $96.85 from the main pot


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HAND4

** Drumline [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money



- PaBu sitting in seat 1 with $88.13

- Craigy87 sitting in seat 2 with $31.42

- LennAA sitting in seat 3 with $50.75

- julemar sitting in seat 4 with $63.20

- gimlis sitting in seat 5 with $14.90

- HERO sitting in seat 6 with $49.50

- WolvesFI sitting in seat 7 with $9.70

- nardo11 sitting in seat 8 with $17.25

- Zei sitting in seat 9 with $92.70 [Dealer]

- SirTwist sitting in seat 10 with $18.25



SirTwist posted the small blind - $0.25

PaBu posted the big blind - $0.50



** Dealing card to HERO: [As] [Kc]

Craigy87 raised - $1.00

LennAA called - $1.00

julemar folded

gimlis folded

HERO called - $1.00

WolvesFI folded

nardo11 folded

Zei folded

SirTwist folded

PaBu folded



** Dealing the flop: [4s] [2d] [3h]

Craigy87 bet - $1.50

LennAA folded

HERO raised - $6.00

Craigy87 called - $6.00



** Dealing the turn: [Qs]

Craigy87 went all-in - $24.42

HERO folded

Craigy87 mucks: [Jd] [Jc]
Craigy87 wins $39.42 from the main pot


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Postby T-Rod » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:22 am

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:39 am

Hand 1 - You should fold on the flop, you have to think you're beat here with an all-in and a call, after your flop raise.

Hand 2 - Personally, I don't like the call on the flop here. It's not a bad move, but I prefer to re-raise or fold it right there. Make a decision. You raised and were min-raised back, and this almost always means a set or big hand. What would you have done if he bet out again on the turn even if the ace didn't come? I think you actually got lucky here with the ace coming and you could've lost a lot more if a complete blank came.

Hand 3 - Don't ever lay down a set on a ragged boar at NL50. Never.

Hand 4 - It might just be my experience, but a minraise preflop to 2BB generally means a low to mid pocket pair. I re-raise preflop here and fold on that flop. There are better places to try and steal/bluff the pot and you wouldn't be too wrong if you never tried it at NL50 actually.
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Postby BadBeatMan » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:46 am

i dont think you play was that bad really. Just dont fold that set next time in hand 3.
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Postby Zuccala » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:52 am

Hand #1:

I would have called the first ALL IN but not 2. The first guy may be trying to shut you out of the pot with a FD or something, but after there is a caller there is NO way that I am gonna stck around much longer.

Hand #2

I would have called on the flop aswell. But after that club fell on the turn I am outta there. You did get bluffed out of this one unfortunatley. Your opponent made a VERY risky play. I would make a note of his play for sure!!

Hand #3

i would not lay down set, no way. Yes u could be against 99, but I think AA - QQ is a better asumption. (oops just read KK..hehe) He raised 4BB PF right?? You are only behind2 possible hands..which prolly would not raise PF..

Hand #4

I do not think that I would make a steal attempt on a coordinated board like that. Nice raise amount though. I think that uncoordinated rainbow boards are much better IMO.
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Postby JJSCOTT2 » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:20 pm

Reading you lay down that set was the most confused I've ever been, I was waiting for some explanation of how the table popped up and you accidently clicked fold and were pissed off or something.....but it never came. Don't put me through that kind of emotional rollercoaster ever again.
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Postby BigPhish » Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:50 pm

1) The first all-in might be suspect, the second means something. It sucks to fold aces, but keep telling yourself, "It's just an overpair". Another thought: Would you have folded QQ there?

2) Good fold.

3) What are you afraid of? Never fold a set on that board, especially not at NL$50. If you lose set-over-set, be ready to not lose set-over-set on your next 100 or so.

4) Nice try, good fold.
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Postby poker2006 » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:27 pm

Hand 3: Never lay down a set on a small board like that. If you lose set over set, so be it. You have to be against a very good player that you know very well to make that laydown. The fact that he limped in early position made it likely he was limp-raising a big hand, so that's another reason in favor of the call.
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Postby MHFlush » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:07 am

Thanks very much for all your replies!
Some comments, if you don't mind:

HAND1:
I bet 18$ on the flop because I wanted to Pot-commit myself. After 2 guys went all-in, I just have to pay 20$ more to win a huge 120$ pot, so 6-1 odds. Therefore, I think the call was borderline but not too bad.

HAND2:
I think I should have rereraised on the flop again, the call was weak especially because I am in EP and I can expect a bet on the turn again. On the turn I put him on an Ace and I was lucky that the Ace fell else I would have lost much more.

HAND3:
Unbelievable bad, I put him on 99.

HAND4:
The board is coodinated but he should fold something like AQ. The chance that he has an overpair is relatively small. Btw, his all-in on the turn was very bad in my opinion.
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:10 am

Since everyone has already commented about as much as possible, I'll just comment on your comments...

Hand 1... Yes, it's only $20 to win $120, but the odds you're gonna win that are pretty slim... Not sure if they're 1 in 5 to justify the call... Maybe if there was a decent sidepot, I would consider it more... But as there's really only gonna be one large main pot, I assumed one had like JT for 2pr and the other either an Ace high flush draw or trips... The problem is, even if by some miracle you're ahead here, in a 3way pot, you're trying to avoid like a million and one outs...

Hand 2... I play just like you did... I don't get into that macho "I got an overpair" crap... At least I don't try to ... One of the best things I learned from Ice is that when someone minraises you, start packin it in... I'm pretty sure I'm calling the reraise, probably out of stupidity (praying for my miracle set)... I think if he has AJ, he's probably raising more... And, if I get bluffed out of a pot now and again, so be it... I think RERAISING there is a horrible idea though, as that would basically put you allin and praying he has AJ...

Hand 3... Obviously you know better...

Hand 4... The only real problem I have is your statement "The board is coodinated but he should fold something like AQ."... The ONLY hand you're really ahead of there IS AQ... So, by raising, you're hoping he folds the ONLY hand you're ahead of, and calls with every hand that beats ya? That just seems like odd logic... Either way, you're obviously not calling that turn...
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