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Postby laynegt » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:55 pm

normally this wouldn't be too hard in one of my posts, but this hand basically played itself. yet, can you find the clear, black-and-white mistake i made?

(btw, answer is not 'limping w/ JJ'. at least, that's not the mistake i'm talking about. :wink: )

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (9 handed)

UTG+1 ($59.90)
Hero ($46.75)
MP2 ($26.80)
MP3 ($27.65)
CO ($58.45)
Button ($39.15)
SB ($22.15)
BB ($86.25)
UTG ($41.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Jd], [Js].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) [5h], [Ah], [Jc] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.5, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3.75, MP3 calls $3.75, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $3.25, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($14.75) [8c] (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12, MP3 raises to $23.40 (All-In), UTG calls $23.40, Hero calls $11.40.

River: ($50.75) [5s] (3 players)
UTG bets $14.3 (All-In), Hero calls $14.30.

Main Pot: $82.45
Side Pot: $28.60
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:59 pm

You shouldve gone all in on the turn after you got raised and called.
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Postby briachek » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:17 pm

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Postby laynegt » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:24 pm

no that's not it :twisted:
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Postby briachek » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:35 pm

bet $11.50 on the turn so that you can go all in when it comes back to you. You were probably prevented from going all in since the mp3's all in was not a full min raise.
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Postby laynegt » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:56 pm

yup! as soon as it got back to me on the turn, i realized i'd needed to bet .30 less.

thankfully, utg was already made. fwiw:
utg: [Ad][Th]
mp3: [Jh][8h]
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Postby kennyg » Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:12 am

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Postby black_knight6 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:23 am

Wow, I didn't know that was the rule for some sites...something I'll have to think about!!
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Postby AlamedaMike » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:00 pm

There have been several articles written about this. What considers a raise in NL and to some extent in limit as well.

Where I USED to play live (I just quit) and most casinos when a player goes all in it is not considered a raise unless it is 2x the amount to call.

This is a perfect example where the all-in was just short to re-open the betting to allow him to raise all-in.

See my hand - I was allowed to raise when he did not double the amount.

http://livepokerforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6816

It looks like UB follows the live casion rules. Interesting.
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Postby tarheel1 » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:00 pm

Same rule in a PS tourney last night when It bit me.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed)

Button (t8155)
SB (t250)
BB (t1610)
UTG (t4527)
Hero (t3405)
MP1 (t8098)
MP2 (t4595)
MP3 (t2970)
CO (t6150)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [Ad], [Ah].
1 fold, Hero calls t200, 4 folds, Button calls t200, SB raises to t250, 1 fold, Hero calls t50, Button calls t50.

( I wanted to re raise a hefty amount here but I couldnt)

Flop: (t950) [2h], [5s], [9d] (3 players)
Hero bets t1000, Button calls t1000.

Turn: (t2950) [Td] (3 players)
Hero bets t1000, Button calls t1000.

River: (t4950) [Th] (3 players)
Hero bets t1155 (All-In), Button calls t1155.

Final Pot: t7260


SB has 4c 3c (one pair, tens).
Hero has Ad Ah (two pair, aces and tens).
Button has Ks Ts (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Button wins t7260.
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