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Limped KK

Postby iceman5 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:35 pm

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I limp KK UTG, UTG+1 ($325) limps, button limps and the BB checks.

4 to the flop. Pot $16. The flop comes [Kh][9h][Qs]. I bet $15, UTG+1 raises to $45. Folded back to me. I flat call.

Pot is $106. Turn is the [4c]. I check and he bets $70.

1) Whats your play?
2) What do you put him on?
3) Anyone reraise the flop?
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Postby ua1176 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:46 pm

you haven't given any info as to your reads on this player...but assuming he's semi-solid and reasonably tight...i would put him on either AA, AK, or 99. that being said....it should also be in the back of your mind that he might be one of those guys who limps in EP with J10...or maybe [Ah][Qh] or some other flush draw.

so i think this: if he's got AK...you don't get any more $$$ out of him past his $70 turn bet...so whatever you do is fairly irrelevant. if he's got AA...you lose a bit of value by revealing the strength of your hand at the turn....but then again, some players will call a turn raise. if he's got 99, you can probably get all the money in. if he does have J10 or a flush draw...you obviously want to raise him now. i would raise to $220 or so.

and i wouldn't re-raise the flop. i think you can get more out of him on the turn.

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Postby Stoneburg » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:46 pm

I probably re-raise all-in on the flop. He could very well have two-pair or a lower set, both of which are pretty much drawing dead against me and WILL call my all-in, and if he has the dreaded JT I still have outs.

I can't "put" him on anything without knowing how he has played earlier or what his stats are, but that *seems* like a pretty standard raise to protect against the flush draw so I would assume that a limping hand like KQ or maybe K9s is most likely, KJ/KT or a flushdraw if he's aggressive.
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Postby T-Rod » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:07 pm

I assume you have him covered.
I put him on KQ or made hand that is afraid of the flush.
His turn bet seems pretty solid and not too fearful.

Yuck-I see why you posted this. :!:

I definitely reraise the flop. I want to see if JT is really there.

UGH. Very frustrating. What to do. I guess I check/call down the river. Half of me says you're not folding this no matter what so just push and pay off J10 if you have to and the other half of me says anyone calling your push is beating you (i.e., J10) so check/call.
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Postby shobute » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:14 pm

Hmm...

1) I raise to $180 or so. You're going broke to JT I think.
If he's drawing he has to pay now, and your top set is very well camouflaged.

2) You'd need a bit more info on the guy to make a reasonable assesment, but ua1776 covered the possibilities.

3) It's pretty co-ordinated, but if you reraise it I think you'll lose him. At my level I'd definitely reraise, but from my observations of 1/2 and 2/4...

Curious to hear your answers ice. :wink:
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Postby iceman5 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:59 pm

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Postby Twelver » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:02 pm

I don't know the player...or the lmits all that well, but I don't see him limping in with QQ, so I think that can be ruled out. I have no problem with the call instead of raise on the flop, This way if the flush card does come....you can lead into him and find out real qucik if he was on the draw. On the turn when the brick hits, I check just as you did, to show weakness, and when he bets $70....like I said in an earlier post...I check-raise that mother bitch all-in. If he has JT I pay him off...as that is the only hand beating me. I think he has KQ or 99.....maybe [Ah] [Jh]
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