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Postby AlamedaMike » Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:08 am

Live NL $200

RHP - $380 (played with him a few times - 30 something, sunglasses, hat and looks like he works outside)

Me - $380 - about 60 looks like Mike Sexton (really)

I am going to pull an Iceman trick not that I am anywhere near as good as he is.

What I mean is, I think this is an interesting hand and it would help me a lot to see how better players would play it.

I am not going to reveal my hand until the showdown. A hand that happend a few before might have helped set it up. RHP (player seated to my imm. right) raised to $30 with TT in LP after a few limpers and I made it $90. Everyone folded and watched us. He eventually folded and showed his TT and I showed my KK.

He was UTG+2 and made it $10, I raised to $25. He called.

The flop was [Ad] [Js] [7h]

He bet $30 and I raised to $90. He though 1 minute and called.

If you were watching would you have any idea of our hands?

The turn was [6s].

The pot now has about $250 - He checked and I said all-in for my $251.

Now his hand in white.

He had Ace Queen offsuit

He though for about 3 minutes (NL games are sometimes slow).

He called with his $250.

Looking at that borad with his hand what hand do you think that I could have? I raised the preflop and I raised the flop that should mean a strong hand like AA, KK or AK. If I flopped nuts AAA whould I risk raising you on the flop and you folding? You know that I sometimes do bluff and never show my bluffs.

Now my hand in White if you want to look (just hightlight it with your mouse).


I showed two JACKS for a flopped set. I think he though I was pushing a weak Ace of bluffing with KK.


A player named John said that he knew what I had. I better vary my game some.

Comments welcome.
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Postby Stoneburg » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:47 pm

I nailed his hand (AQ) and I had you down for most likely AA, JJ or AK in that order. Even though I'd expect you to play AA or JJ a bit softer on this pretty draw free board and I'd expect you to check behind on the turn with AK.
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Postby iceman5 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:02 pm

I wasnt sure what he had, but I had you squarely on JJ
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Postby AlamedaMike » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:27 pm

Great read guys.

Both of you are better players. I think since I accidently played the hand dfferenlty that I would with JJ it got him to put all his money in.

Agaisnt either of you I would not have made any real money if played this way. Like I said I am pretty new at NL - About 6 months now so I am learning.

Thanks for the feedback.

Iceman/Stone the correct way to play JJ here would be to slow play it since there is not real draws. Pray he had AK or AJ. Call his flop bet of $30 then check the turn and try to get a bet in on the river?

or better to raise the flop say to $60-75 then check the trun? Try for a river bet?

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Postby Stoneburg » Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:54 pm

The reason you would only get $10 from me is that I'd fold to the re-raise preflop. Actually you'd probably just get $2 since I'm liable to limp AQ in EP.

I think you played it well, the only thing I would have done differently is bet smaller on the turn to make it easier for him to call, then put the rest in on the river. However, your play may very well be better. I don't think you need to check behind on the turn, since he called your flop raise he must have something he thinks is pretty good so he'll probably call both turn and river in installments.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:43 am

I had him pegged on AK and figured you for JJ. Nice win :)
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Postby iceman5 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:31 am

I wouldnt have called your reraise with AQ in a million years.

Also, a flop raise is ok, but I would prefer to flat call and raise the turn, dependng on stack sizes.
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Postby AlamedaMike » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:17 am

Thanks guys. I do not get sets often and I need to learn how to play them better to get full value.

I flopped a set of Kings online in the BB and the SB got away. I smooth called the flop and he checked the turn - I bet he folded. Must not have had much anyway.

Good read everyone. Remind me to stay off the same tables that you play. 8-)

Thanks one more time for the feedback.
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