- babycatchr sitting in seat 1 with $48.50
- StaroTequila sitting in seat 2 with $94.08
- Stoneburg sitting in seat 3 with $53.20
- Fredde01 sitting in seat 4 with $13.00 [Dealer]
- extremtfet sitting in seat 5 with $60.30
- tkjelvik sitting in seat 6 with $35.60 [Sitting out]
- 12345xxx sitting in seat 7 with $9.75
- Riverchasing sitting in seat 8 with $56.15
- highlife__ sitting in seat 9 with $26.05
- executive284 sitting in seat 10 with $48.59

Riverchasing raised - $1.00
highlife__ folded
executive284 folded
babycatchr folded
StaroTequila folded
Stoneburg called - $1.00 [Qh]
Fredde01 folded
extremtfet called - $1.00
12345xxx called - $1.00

** Dealing the flop: (pot: $4)
extremtfet checked
12345xxx checked
Riverchasing bet - $4.00
Stoneburg raised - $12.00
extremtfet folded
12345xxx folded
Riverchasing called - $12.00

** Dealing the turn: (pot: $28)
Riverchasing checked
Stoneburg checked

** Dealing the river: (pot: $28)
Riverchasing went all-in - $43.15



Should I have played this differently? I would have folded to a real raise preflop but I treat mini-raises like limps.

it is easy to know how to treat min-raises - look at the pfr% - if you have a guy with 2% pfr and he min-raises it's still AA or KK - if he has 16% pfr you can treat it like a limp usually

I had only a few hands on this guy, like 5-6 when this happened, but I totally agree otherwise.

Great point excession

i still fold preflop but i'm definitley calling that river. who can put you on a flush? It looks like he has JJ

i think you're ahead....there aren't any 2 hearts that he could legitimately call your flop raise with. if he's an absolute idiot he might have [Kh].......there are people out there who call a flop raise with stuff like that. but apart from a read certifying him as a grade-A moron....i think you have to be ahead......and even with the "moron" read.....if he's that stupid he could have a million other hands too. i expect that he'll have either JT or JJ, with an outside possibility of TT or 99.

jon

I've been playing a lot at this level lately (party bonus) and I have this sneaking suspicion he has [Ts]. TPTK is played like the stone nuts by many players. Also, they like to call flop raises with TPTK and check-call the rest of the way. Because he didn't bet the turn I don't think he really has an overpair. [Ts] is also a possibility, but I think it is unlikely for it to have been minraised UTG.

Not betting the turn (though understandable strategy as you have outs to win if he is indeed trapping you) cost you info. At this level I would prefer to bet the turn instead of check it and lay down to a check raise. On the river, it's not clear whether he was drawing with [Jh] or [Kh] or has [Ts]. With no other information available, at this level, I would tend to lay down against a player who started the hand with a stack above buyin, and call against a player who started the hand significantly below. Plus, you are only receiving roughly 1.5:1 on the call. I would prefer 2.5:1 or better with the info available before calling. That is a number I just pulled out of my ass, there's no significance to it other than comfort level with my analysis here.

So with all this I'm probably folding, and if he indeed has [Ts] he gets added to the fish list because it's not going to be long before he doinks his checks off to me.

[edit: I'm retarded, the second heart didn't appear until the turn. Still, too often an all-in on the river means "I stumbled onto the nuts no matter how badly I played the hand.' I think no matter what the guy has he's played it like a fish, so you can call and find out what kind if nothing else, and then take stack after stack off of him in the future]

Well I have the so is out of the question, but would otherwise have made sense. I'm surprised that anyone would bet the turn though. I made my flop raise in case he was continuation betting a missed AK/AQ/AJ, when he called me I figured he had me beat so I'll gladly check behind (I'm not going to try to push someone off if he has at least TPTK). On the river I figure (maybe a bit unscientific) that the odds of BOTH hitting a backdoor flush are just too high so I call, he shows JJ which makes a lot of sense. (and means Bri is spot on)

I am somewhat surprised to learn he had JJ instead of AT -- most players would have lead the turn with JJ I do believe, and also put in a normal raise preflop. If he was smart enough to exercise pot control after your flop raise, he made a horrendous bet with a straight on the river which only a flush would call.

Regardless, I would likely not have raised this flop at all. I would not want to play a huge pot with a pair of tens, and the board is uncoordinated enough that I'm not concerned with knocking out draws. If I really think that a pair of tens with queen kicker is the best hand, then I want my opponent to continue to bluff at it with AK/AQ. Players who aren't completely reckless are probably going to check that turn with AK or AQ after they are called. I probably get to see the river for $10 instead of $12 if I just call two bets and thus lose less when I am beat and earn more when ahead; plus I get to see that I pick up a back door on the turn for $4.

If I do raise that flop that big I for sure follow up on the turn after he checks. Just my style... if I am representing a big hand, I'm going to follow through representing a big hand.

Glad you dragged the pot.

thank you, thank you. I wish I was always this good at reading hands.

Since there was no way he has the flush draw too, he has to have an overpair to play it like that and the river bet only makes sense if he has JJ.

i would have played it the exact same way.

he called that flop raise..you know he's got something good. let your backdoor hit on the river to stack him.