I've got 5,000 hands under my belt at NL25 now and I'm feeling pretty good about myself. In those 5k hands, my BR that I play NL$25 with has gone from $75 to $357. I know that's not appropriate for NL$50 play, but that's not my whole BR. My BR can be whatever I need it to be.

Anyway, my intent should I move up is to be somewhat cautious at first. I started this whole thing with the Party Poker challenge. I went to NL50 once and within a few cycles of the button had my BR busted back into NL$25 territory. I know exactly what I did. I evaluated every hand I lost money on. I was a hyper-aggressive moron.

So, anyway, I'm looking for your thoughts on my moving up based on my PT stats. If I'm not listing somethig that is relevant, please let me know.

NL $25 Stats

Total Hands: 5,007
VP$IP: 22.51%
VP$IPSB: 38.49%

Fold SB to Steal: 77.78%
Fold BB to Steal: 66.67%

Att. to Steal Blinds: 8.50%

W$WSF: 34.23%
Win Rate / 100: $7.00
BB/100: 13.99

WtSD: 19.66%
W$SD: 48.48%

PF Raise 3.75%

First Flop Action After PF Raise
Raise: 6.91%
Bet: 46.81%
Call: 1.06%
Check: 11.70%
Check/Raise: 1.06%
Fold: 3.72%

Flop Aggression: 2.64
Turn Aggression: 2.42
River Aggression: 3.76

When Folded
None: 11.88%
Pre-Flop: 73.22%
Flop: 9.71%
Turn: 3.22%
River: 1.98%


Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
-Phish

Phish,

I dont think 5K hands is a good sample at all. I ve had good runs in 5K hands with 21PTBB/100! I am having problems with my old DB and cant find some other very decent numbers I ve had in good runs of 5K hands.

Whats your WtSD% and W$SD%?

My W$WSF is 39.5% but that is maybe because my VP$IP is 17.7% and Flop AF= 4.

I have only played around 7K hands at NL$50 and I m breaking even, despite some crazy Badbeats in a losing streak I havent been able to leave behind. I could say it s the same as NL$50, no skill difference.

Since you can afford it, you might try it, but maybe it s not the best idea, because you cant say for sure if you are a winning player with 5K hands, although your stats looks very acceptable.

I would suggest a little more aggression, specially on the flop. Be careful with that river aggression.That high AFR is highly effective if your WtSD less than 20%, in which case you are there only with solid hands.

Remember I am the Real Big FISH on this forum so be careful following my advice.


AlexMR

Added WtSD (19.66%) and W$SD (48.48%) above.

I've tried higher flop aggression. Seems every time I bet after missing, someone raises me. More than a minraise. Tough to call that...

If you frequently are playing loose passive players you will make it to the showdown with a loser very frequently if they don't bet the river with bottom pair that you couldn't push them off of with a raise even if you had the nuts.

W$SD is a great stat to give you some sort of idea if you are calling down too much as a loser or a lower than optimal PTBB/100. If you PTBB/100 is acceptable to large because you are maximizing the times you do catch your gutshot with backdoor flush draw that you called two minimum bets to hit, you are probably playing properly even if that number looks low.

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Oh, your stats look fine, I would say if you want to play it safe you can take some stabs until you get a toe hold in the bigger game. I don't see any harm in playing more than stake game, if you are comfortable with knowing to move down if you take a big hit, and with the bet and raise sizes of the bigger game.

i like those numbers (well, they look very similar to mine)

its good that you are betting out almost 50% of the time on the flop after a pf-raise, i think thats where alot of money comes from

According to my calculations, people are only folding to your preflop raises 28.74% of the time. Thats very low. I think you need to be raising more. Not more often. You need to make your raises bigger.

My preflop raise percentage is higher than yours, but people fold to my preflop raises over 52% of the time. So even though I raise more, they still fold to me more. Thats because I raise larger amounts.

If you were raising alot of hands (like 6-10%) then it would make sense that your raises arent getting respect, but at only 3.75% preflop raise which is pretty tight, I think youre getting called too often, which means your also probably getting called multiple times which isnt good since youre only raising big pairs and AK/AQ for the most part.

At least thats what the stats look like.

Shamrock I think you might be a bit confused about what a BR is. Your BR is not the money you have on a particular casinos account. It's the total and maximum amount of money that you can use to gamble. I can have $100 on my account but have a BR of a million, or only $10 for that matter in case I'm just letting the $100 sit there but can only afford to lose $10. Also, BR is more or less only relevant if you're living off poker, or trying too. At least that's how I understand it.

Actually, Shamrock, I've built my BR up from a few bucks worth of investment and some free cash from Prima (the $10 they offer and some freeroll winnings).

I have just under $400 on Party, plenty more sitting in Firepay, and a chunk of change sitting at home as my "live" BR (4 casinos closeby). I'm not worried BR-wise about NL$50.

I'm worried skill-wise though.

Still, I sat down for a few hours today and played NL$25. Might have some more kinks to work out...

Phish, if you are not worried about the $ moving up, then move up. Because there ain't much difference between $25NL and $50NL at Party as far as skill goes. At least not IMHO.