I made my 1st fairly obvious mistake since Ive been playing the $5/$10 project. Tell me how bad you think the mistake is. Im going to tell you what he had now, but try to put yourself in my shoes and decide how bad the mistake is.

2 EP limpesr, I limp in the cutoff with [8c]. Both blinds play.

Pot is $50. Flop comes [Ts][Ah]. It gets checked to me and I think "if a 9 falls I have a straight but i have to worry about KQ" I dont think I can steal this pot so I check.

Pot is $50. The turn is the . SB checks, BB bets $25, EP1 calls, EP 2 calls. Wouldnt one of them raise with KQ? Theres a flush draw out there. I raise to $150. Im happy with that raise, but then it gets folded back to EP 1 who reraises minimum to $300.

UGH!. Looks like KQ, but it could be a set also. New guy so no read. I'll tell you now that he had KQ. I called and then called $175 into the $700 pot on the river. I couldve folded the turn and saved $325, but I think he couldve had a set there also. Im just not sure what percent of the time it will be a set and not KQ.

I rate the mistake at a 8 out of 10. What do you think?

To be honest, I think I just would have called the turn and keep the pot small because I don't want to play a big pot with the ass end of the straight. Sure he could have a set and their could be a flush draw but your hand isn't that powerful either, IMO. I look for a good river and probably wuss out and call again or value bet if checked to. I guess Min raises still sometimes mean the same up at that level. He priced you in pefectly on the river.

I rated it a 9 which may be a little too harsh but I would never been that happy with my hand.

KQ flops the nuts. There's no way even a half-way decent player is betting out on this board. Assuming I had KQ, I would wait until the turn before making any sort of move on this board.

When the flop checks around you need to be somewhat suspicious. I think you play here is pretty bad. Your raise on the turn is good. You're trying to collect information. You got the information you wanted. You can safely fold to the mini-raise.

All and all I think the play was pretty bad. Though I'm sure you knew it.

Ice why would you say he could have a set?? There is no raise preflop, yes someone could be trying to limp raise and have AA utg or mp could have limped with JJ or 1010 but that seems a lot less likely than KQ. Also that is a pretty draw firendly board with 3 broadway cards it seems like an unlikely time to slow play a set. The only realistic set in my opinion is 9's. Its ironic that you are always harping on min raise = monster and you made that mistake. I guess it just shows that everyone in the heat of the moment can make mistakes, even the best of teachers.

the min-raise shouldve set off mental sirens, if someone slow plays TP or a set with that board they are crazy, the milking bet on the river should've seen a fold too... but with a nice hand like yours, and with the way you got off very cheaply i rate this mistake a 4/10

I can't tell you anything you don't already know. Agreed that there's no way a decent player would play a set that way unless he was treating it like a pure bluff.

Its a bad play no doubt, which is why I posted it. If I can keep mistakes like this to 1 every 2500 hands and I'll be in good shape.

The worst part is that I had already told myself if a 9 comes and I get resistance, I need to get away from the hand and then I didnt.

I rated it a 5

For 50 pushups!


TR

I haven't played stakes that high thus far so keep that in mind when reading this post.

That type of flop hit someone. It's got broadway cards up the ying yang. It remains to be seen how hard someone hit it. I smell trouble when that flop gets checked around. I proceed with caution.

Your also aware that your drawing to the sucker straight. You have postion which is good but I still don't like the hand if I hit the straight if my bet/raise is called.

Regarding putting an opponent on a set: I don't think a set slow plays that flop. It's got broadway cards all over the place. It's a dangerous flop for a set. I don't see a set stacking off on that board so why would they give a free card? How can a set risk having a K or Q fall on the turn? They have to be willing to give it up if one of those cards falls.

I also can't fathom a good player only mini rerasing with a set. I think that you raising the turn is much better than calling but I want to pick it up right there. When he mini reraises he's either got the good straight or is playing 2pr/set poorly.

Regarding your comment about 'wouldn't they raise the turn with the flush draw out there if they had a straight... You had a straight. Why didn't you push? There was a flush draw out there....

You raised the turn and were reraised. You can safely fold there. If it's some idiot misplaying his hand you will find out soon enough and can find a better spot to do battle. His small bet on the river (in retrospect) is him feining weakness hoping to get raised again. Good thing you didn't go aggro on him there.

p.s. Glad to see you move up in stakes. It's about time lol. Thanks for picking the 200 games down to the bones hahaha. Seriously, Congrats on your success thus far.

Ice this looks like a mistake that I would make, not you. I would expect you to fold after the re-raise.

Live game and I had in the BB. Flop was . I bet $25 and got raised another $25 by MP3 and I called. Heads up.

The turn was . I checked and he bet $50. I mucked my cards face up and he could not belive that I got away. He showed had exactly what I thought.

Thats a bad fold

If the pot had $25 in it on the flop when you bet $25, then after his $50 turn bet, there is $175. Youre getting almost 4-1 and if a diamond hits, youre going to get paid off nicely.

Youre just about getting correct odds to call even without implied odds.

I need to look back at this hand. There may not have been an ace on the flop. Not that that makes a huge difference, but it does make a little difference.

After reading the comments, Im upgrading this to a 9 from an 8 on the mistake scale.

Ice, I call down in that hand EVERY FUCKING TIME!

That should tell you all you need to know about how bad you played it.

-TW