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Postby mecha » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:01 pm

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Postby kennyg » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:14 pm

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Postby mecha » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:19 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:27 pm

You definatley need to crank up the aggression. My aggression numbers are more than double what yours are.

My guess is that youre calling too many bets. Raise or fold the flop is better in most cases.

Your hand sample is big enough to give you a pretty good degree of confidence that 3PTBBs is your true win rate with the playing style your using now.

The win rate is respectable considering that most people lose money, but a good win rate for those stakes is abolut double yours. A great player can win more than double.

So you have a few things to work on. Start with your aggression level and start posting hands.

You dont need to come over the top of people with a gutshot (unless they are very weak tight). Aggression comes in lots of different forms and most of them dont have to include bluffs like that.
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Postby CocaCola » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:49 pm

im having the same problem with negative numbers with the bb/sb

PT subtracts losing the blinds to the total amount won, am i supposed to call more raises and be more aggressive from the blinds to protect them?
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Postby k3nt » Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:31 pm

Don't make changes to your game just because of how PT calculates things!!! If you win plenty the rest of the time, and lose a little from the blinds, that's fine.

Some people love playing marginal situations (e.g. Palman). Some people hate it (Ice). I think playing barely decent cards from out of position (in the blinds) will get you into marginal situations all the time. Do it only if you're comfortable with it, not to make your PT numbers all nice and green.

Just MHO....
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Postby mecha » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:19 pm

The problem i find with being very aggressive is that every time you check, your opponent knows you are weak.

For example, you have a good but not great hand and bet the flop and are called. You then proceed to check the turn, and your opponent takes the pot from you.

I don't like check raising too frequently, and I don't like givng up free cards, and I don't like calling. Any other solutions?
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Postby Smokin'Al » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:50 pm

Mecha,

Reading your last post, two things sprang to mind

(1) You may be playing too many pots out of position. Tighten up your limping/raising requirements from early position. Make your money when it's your opponents' who have to check the turn!

(2) You have a good hand out of position, bet it and are called. Try betting again on the turn some good percentage of the time. Your opponents don't have a monster every time!
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Postby T-Rod » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:57 pm

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Postby mecha » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:03 pm

thx guys! I am now rated as an 'ultra-aggressor' in Pokertracker in my new database. My Flop Aggression factor is now over 12! I think I took u guys a bit too literally. Anyhow results have been fantastic over a small sample size especially in the blinds.

I have one other concern I would like to discuss. Let me know what you guys do in this situation:

You Hold TPTK, SET, 2-PAIR or something good.
Flop has a flush draw. You bet the pot. Opponent Calls. Flush card hits on the turn. You check. Opponent Checks. River is a rag. You check. Opponent Bets the Pot or half pot. What do u do? Do any of you have any systems to randomize this call? Or what if he bets the turn? How often do u give him credit for the flush?
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Postby T-Rod » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:13 pm

Great question about the check/call river and how much would you call.

For me, this is very read dependent. It is this reason that I do not like multitabling that much. I'm watching every hand that that guy plays and how he bets the river. So if he is making a bet that is unusually large, I give him credit.

I also look at WtSD and W$SD percentages. Is this guy at some extreme? If so, I give credit or not accordingly.

As a general rule, I don't see too many people btp on the river without it. Thats at 100NL level.
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Postby mecha » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:29 pm

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Postby T-Rod » Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:34 pm

Are you losing your low flushes with SCs (say 5,6s)?

I used to have this problem in spades (and in hearts, etc.) :P

I haven't had this problem once since I changed to playing SCs like big pairs. I raise with them (granted I play 6-max) or I call a raise with them. Hence, I'm usually against a big pair and when I make my flush, I'm gold.

If I limped, I play them real cautious and fold a flush to big strength.

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