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Postby MVPSPORTS » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:28 am

Local B&M where the crazies were out in full force... 2/5 game, with a $300 buyin (which blows, but whatcha gonna do...)... I've built up about $600, both opponents have about $300...

2 limpers, SB folds, comes to me in the BB w/ [Td] [9d] ... Both limpers are 2 of the better players at the game... MP probably thinks he's a little better than he is, and plays a little too LAGGY for my taste, especially at a table w/ a bunch of calling stations and bozos... LP is a VERY good player... Tricky...

Anyways... FLOP [Ad] [7d] [6d] ... SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Pot is about $17... I lead out for $20... I don't want anyone w/ a single high diamond stayin in for the ride... MP thinks for a second, and then raises to $75... I have a VERY tight image, but am generally regarded as one of the better players (only you guys know the truth about how bad I really am... :D )... My point is that he probably has a legitimate hand, but could easily be trying to bet high to push me off my hand, thinking I have a big Ace... Anyways, LP mumbles something, then smooth calls...

Action is back to me... $55 to me to call w/ about $187 in the pot... What's my play and why...
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Postby k3nt » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:33 am

I never know what to do with the nut flush on the flop when somebody bets into me. Call or raise? And because I have no idea what to do, I have no idea whether to interpret someone else's call (or raise) as the nut flush or what.

I lost my very first all-in at no-limit (for $2.00) at Ultimate Bet in a flop flush over flush situation. I think that one hand got seared into my brain a little too clearly.

My issue is that [Kd][Qd] and [Kd][Jd] and [Qd][Jd] are all popular limping hands. Having the [Ad] out there makes things a bit less scary, but not enough for my taste.

Either push or fold here. And the only reason to fold is if you're a scared weenie like me. So push.

And anyway, if somebody has the higher flush, you have an out! :)
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:52 am

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Postby Cactus Jack » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:31 pm

"Are the players better as the stakes go up? It's not an exam; it's a buyin." Barry Tanenbaum
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Postby MVPSPORTS » Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:15 am

Oh... sorry...

I did what I NOW think was very ill-advised and put both of them allin for $300...

They both insta called... MP had [4d] [3d] ... LP, unfortunately, had [Kd] [Jd] ...

I didn't hit my wonderful one-outter, and was minus $300 for the hand, which stung like a bitch...

I'm trying to figure out if I was dead from the flop, or if I just got caught up in the action and pushed when I didn't need to...

I'm thinking... I call the $75... Turn is a blank... I check to the MP raiser... He pushes... LP calls... Is it a good fold then...??? It would be about $225 for me to call, and there would be about $675 or so in the pot... I'm STILL not sure I'm getting away from it, but I at least think I should've thought out his smooth call more...
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Postby laynegt » Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:08 am

if you call the flop raise, i think i would easily(?) fold to that turn action you describe (based on LP)...but don't you know that's coming anyway? tough, crazy hand.

if i figured this right...the odds of 3 hands and the flop all being of one suit is:

12/51 * 11/50 * 10/49 * ... * 5/44 = 1 in 1.29 million

(although practically speaking, the chances are slightly greater b/c ppl will tend to play suited cards, but anyway)
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