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KQo - ouch

Postby AlamdeaMike » Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:15 pm

Hey guys and gals,

I would like some feedback on this hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed)

Hero ($84.30)
SB ($66.65)
BB ($200)
UTG ($110.20)
UTG+1 ($91.10)
MP1 ($50.55)
MP2 ($53.20)
MP3 ($285.40)
CO ($49)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [Kd], [Qh].
UTG calls $2, 3 folds, MP3 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($10) [Qc], [3h], [Ks] (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $9, UTG folds, MP3 calls $9, Hero raises to $30, SB folds, BB raises to $198, MP3 folds,

Hero wonders what to do now?

Could the BB be betting AK real strong, K3 or Q3? Maybe a set of something? Bluffing with a draw?

I hate these decisions - I guess that is way we should not even play KQo in NLHE to avoid losing a bunch. I have already put in $32.

I guess a fold is in order.

Comments welcome - thanks
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Postby Stoneburg » Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:20 pm

I don't think I can fold there. He would have raised KK or QQ preflop so you're only behind to 33, which is probably what you will see most of the time... but I bet he would do this with K3 and Q3 and of course KQ, maybe JT as well if he's super aggressive so I call. Even against 33 you at least have outs.

Oh, and you're a shortstck (shame on you!) which makes it even easier.
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Postby AlamdeaMike » Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:39 pm

I called all in and he showed [3d] [3c] lucky him. I really could not see floding here, I just wanted some feedback.

The Turn and River were 7's for no help for me - FH for him.

Thanks.

Hero calls $52.30 (All-In).

Turn: ($299.30) [7c] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($299.30) [7d] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $299.30

Results in white below:
BB has 3c 3d (full house, threes full of sevens).
Hero has Kd Qh (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: BB wins $299.30.
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Postby kennyg » Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:51 am

Yeah I would have called too.

Theres a really good possibilty he has K3 , Q3, or an overplayed AK.

Besides...you still had umm...4 outs ;-)
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Postby AlamdeaMike » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:46 am

Thanks - it is just Poker as they say. Like when I had JJ and the other guy had 77 and got a 7 on the flop.
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Postby bensberg » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:30 am

Ugh.. it would be very tough to fold here. I probably couldn't.

Ex. couple days ago: me AJo in SB, him JJ in BB. no pre-flop raise. Flop AJ6. Bye bye stack.
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Postby Jav » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:48 am

I agree. I figure that his range of hands is 33, K3, Q3, KQ, AK, or maybe JT. I think you need to call. You will see 33 quite a bit, but when it happens you will still have 4 outs to win. Honestly I would expect 33 to play a little more passive, which would make me lean towards calling.
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