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Postby shamdonk » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:33 am

#1
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed)

UTG+1 ($22.87)
UTG+2 ($21.75)
MP1 ($44.39)
MP2 ($10.1)
MP3 ($24.45)
CO ($24.4)
Hero ($49.3)
SB ($41.55)
BB ($27.5)
UTG ($21.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with [Qs], [Qc].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls $2.

Flop: ($6.60) [2d], [Ts], [8d] (2 players)
MP3 bets $1, Hero raises to $5, MP3 calls $4.

Turn: ($16.60) [2h] (2 players)
MP3 bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($24.60) [Qd] (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $8, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: $32.60

#2
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (10 handed)

UTG ($42.2)
UTG+1 ($20.85)
UTG+2 ($50.59)
MP1 ($10.8)
MP2 ($20.25)
MP3 ($26.22)
Hero ($59.5)
Button ($29.45)
SB ($27.4)
BB ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with [7s], [7h].
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.5, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.25.

Flop: ($2.75) [Qh], [7c], [5c] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $2, Button folds, SB folds, UTG calls $2, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($6.75) [3c] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $8, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $18.75

How bad are these turn plays?
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Postby kidluckee » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:45 am

Hand 1 his turn bet smells fishy, you generally should raise and fold if he goes over the top, but letting him possibly draw cheaply can be a big mistake especially if he has a ATd hand with lots of outs. The play from here depends a lot on your info on the player.

Hand 2 is a very weak fold in my opinion. You are getting 4.5:1 on your call and have likely 10 outs (7, QQQ, 555, 333) to beat a flush. That's an auto call.
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Postby laynegt » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:44 am

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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:51 am

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Postby briachek » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:37 pm

Hand 1 - I agree to raise the turn. Getting him to commit more money when he can still hit outs to win is easier than trying to get money on the river

Hand 2 - Folding that turn makes baby jesus cry :cry: Even if you are behind, he is giving you great odds to catch up and if you do, he could be dumb enough to call off the rest of his chips.
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Postby shamdonk » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:01 pm

I apologize to all for folding on the turn.
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Postby rdale » Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:01 pm

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