Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed)

MP3 ($11.25)
CO ($28)
Button ($19.2)
SB ($15.3)
BB ($28.5)
UTG ($20.05)
UTG+1 ($36)
MP1 ($50.98)
Hero ($32.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , . SB posts a blind of $0.1.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, MP3 calls $1.50, 4 folds, MP1 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($4.85) , , (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $3, MP3 folds, MP1 calls $3.

Turn: ($10.85) (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $6, MP1 calls $6.

River: ($22.85) (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $22.85

Results in white below:
MP1 has Ks 7s (straight, nine high).
Hero has 9h 9c (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: MP1 wins $22.85.


And the second one:

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed)

MP2 ($15.7)
MP3 ($17.4)
CO ($50.5)
Button ($36.1)
SB ($6.95)
Hero ($25.3)
UTG ($8.3)
UTG+1 ($15.85)
MP1 ($63.94)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , . SB posts a blind of $0.1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB (poster) raises to $0.4, Hero calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25.

Flop: ($3) , , (6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $2, MP3 folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($7) (2 players)
Hero bets $5, MP2 calls $5.

River: ($17) (2 players)
Hero bets $8, MP2 calls $8.20 (All-In), Hero calls $0.19. I think this bet was a mistake.... but somehow I knew he had hit and felt so frustrated....

Final Pot: $33.40

Results in white below:
Hero has Jd Td (straight, king high).
MP2 has Kd 5s (full house, fives full of kings).
Outcome: MP2 wins $33.40.

It keeps happening. I thought I was out of the slump because I made 2 buy ins earlier at BODOG. but when I came back to Party it s been a mess again... What I find amazing is that I have not tilted for a single hand after all this bad run. I think I will take a longer break. Maybe for the whole week.

Scott,

The 6xBB PF raise is my regular raise. What do I expect? Take the pot down sometimes when I dont hit and maybe if <I hit to get the pot big, because that is my regular course of action: I raise with AA,KK,QQ to 99 no matter the position and fire at the pot hit or miss the flop. I think that makes my game less predictable, and when I hit I am paid. That is the feedback I get. Most players told me that it is not very easy to read me because I always bet the same, even when I should try to keep the pot small I dont do it. I bet the same no mater the situation. It is part of a strategy has roven to be efective in the last two month.

Do you think it is some kind of leak? Could I be saving some bucks with another course of action?

I played that way basically to take my game from vanilla. I am rated TA now. I changed it sometimes to what used to be vanilla: sL/Neutral. You can win playing vanilla though....

AlexMR

Kenny I think I will follow your advise and leave party for a while.

I didnt want to lose the bonus I am working on now but I dont know. I hit a couple decent hands and I am now almost breaking even for the day at party. That makes the day with 55 up.

Let see how it ends. I am currently playing.


AlexMR

Alex... If you REALLY don't like Party, or are struggling there, as you seem to be, try playing the 1/2 LIMIT game... You can't possibly lose much there, and the hands still count toward the hand bonus... And, I don't see anything wrong w/ your raise in that position, if that's how you want to play it... I'll occasionally raise w/ suited connectors in LP, and check AA or KK UTG...

BTW... Kenny... that was my best Frankenstein impersonation... but I guess zombie is close enough...

MVP,
All this trouble has been in the last week. I usually do quite good at party. Right now I am only 15 bucks down for the day but I did 60 on Bodog, so I can say the losing streak is over but I dont want to because I am getting too many bad beats and too many bad hands.

Here is another Bad Beat:

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed)

UTG ($15.5)
UTG+1 ($25.6)
MP1 ($32)
MP2 ($70.4)
Hero ($54.65)
Button ($54.15)
SB ($23.9)
BB ($19.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , . SB posts a blind of $0.1.
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.1, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.85.

Flop: ($2.55) , , (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $2, MP2 calls $2.

Turn: ($6.55) (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $5, MP2 raises to $15, Hero calls $10.

River: ($36.55) (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $36.55

Results in white below:
MP2 has 6h 6c (straight, nine high).
Hero has 7h 8h (two pair, eights and sevens).
Outcome: MP2 wins $36.55.


Oh man. I am taking a break for a while.

AlexMR

im not so sure that last hand is that bad of a beat

you got raised 1.5x the pot.. if that doesnt scream straight i dont know what does..

it takes 5 cards to win..

the first hand was bad, the second hand wasnt as bad
and the 3rd hand just wasnt really bad at all.

Well,

I was ahead on that one. the turn could bring a 7 but it didnt. Iit made his hand, and he was behind. I called without thinking maybe because I was starting to feel bad because of so many bad hands.

I am tired of giving bad news and here is a good one: I ended the day 10up at party and 60up at bodog. Besides those BBs and great amount of trash hands. I think I am back again!

Dont know but it was a great day (based on results) and still have an uncomfortable sensation. Too many, way too many badbeats!!!


AlexMR

Wow. This thread is getting long.......going way back to the beginning, MVP, of course I was kidding lol. I thought I made that obvious but I guess you might consider me to actually be that much of an idiot, I usually don't display much intellectual thought of any kind.

Alex, my only point on the raise with 99 is that if it is your regular play with 99, it **may** be adversely affecting your game. **especially** on Party. They will not put up with it. I have this problem all the way up to TT and hands like AK so I simply don't raise unless the conditions for doing so are very favorable. I guess what I'm trying to say is, the only time you can be really, really confident post flop with a hand like 99 or TT is when you have flopped a 9 or T. And if you intend to play Party Poker on a regular basis, my advice from personal experience is that there is no point in getting yourself into any situations where you're not really comfortable, it's not worth it.

Example.

You raise with 99. The flop comes down 8 4 2, you lead for the size of the pot. LP preflop caller either raises a significant amount or moves all-in. Do you call? No, there's no way you can call this bet, even though I would estiamate that on Party the guy will have A8 or worse here as often or more as he will actually have you beat. But even when you make correct decisions, the more often you set yourself up to make poor decisions, the higher your variance will be, thus 8 buy-in downswings on party.


If I were able to maintain a bankroll of something like 100 buy-ins, I'd have no problem with making slight edge calls because over the long run, an edge is an edge which equals money. But I would venture to guess, that most people don't have anywhere near the bankroll to play that way nor the emotional stability to lose 10 buy-ins and still play on top of their game. Anyway, I seem to be drifting wayyyyy off topic here when my only point was: I seriously doubt that raising with hands like 99 or TT in EP in Party Poker in NL50 will ever show a profit, because it just becomes too difficult to play correctly from there on out.


It's 5:30 AM, I hope something made sense in there, if not, apology in advance.