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Postby GodlikeRoy » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:39 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby iceman5 » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:19 pm

#1) I flat called his $190. I really couldnt decide which is better. A flat call or a CRAI. Im still not sure, but of course an ace hit the turn. UGH!

There was not an iota of doubt in my mind that he had a Q and it very unlikely that it was AQ so I checked hoping he would push but he checked. The river was a T and I checked again. Hes bad but I dont think hes bad enough to call an all in at this point but he might bluff. He checked though and showed Q8. Obviously I wish I had CRAI on the flop after the hand was over.

#2) I checked the turn. I was almost positive that UTG was drawing and that flop raiser was going to bet. UTG checked and MP bet $75. I still wasnt sure if he had 98 but theres no way i could just call so I thought for a while and shoved all in.

UTG thought for a long time and finally folded. MP also thought a long time and said "I cant beat a straight" and folded also. UTG said he had [Ts][8s] and he asked to see the river card. The dealer, who was the dealer that I crushed when he was playing said "thats not allowed here, sir" and then he flashed the card to us. It was the [Ks] and UTG started mumbling to himself and tilited off a bit of money before quitting.

#3) So UTG limped, I limped with AA and then the crazy German raised $35 and there was a call. UTG folded and it was back to me. This German guy had been playing on and off with me for 4 days but I had never said a word to him. He spoke pretty good English. I pretty much keep to myself at the table and probably look bored to death most of the time, but every now and then I come out of nowhere and say or do something crazy, dumb, funny or intimidating.

I announced a raise and tossed my $35 out. Then I grabbed 2 full stacks and raised another $200 on top, I looked at the German and said "Ihr geld ist mein", which means "your money is mine" in German. The whole table looked at me like I was crazy not knowing what I just said and probably trying to figure out where the hell that came from. The German called.

The flop was [Qs][Th][8s]. I shoved all in and he called.
Turn [4d]
River [Qh]. I showed, he mucked and left.
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Postby Aisthesis » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:20 pm

KK overpair I like the CRAI. I think he has too many outs (5 with QJ) for you not to push. Also your being OOP speaks for the push.
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Postby Aisthesis » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:39 pm

Hand 2: Mediocre guy should, after raising, have the str8, 2 pair, or a bigger set. I suppose AT is also in there. You're probably close to 50-50, just guessing against this range, I think. English guy almost has to have spades.

I think I'd make a weakish bet here that UTG has to call to begin with (like $100, but up to $150 if you're pretty sure he'll still call). I think the main thing here is keeping UTG in. That ensures that you're getting 2:1 all the way.

I'm hoping LP will then raise to his remaining stack of $250. That then puts the pot at $700 when it comes back to you, if I'm figuring correctly (original pot of $250 plus 3 players at $100, plus an extra $150). I think you can then push, and English guy is in a pretty tough spot, because you're just barely denying him odds on the call.

He's only got $425 left, and it then costs him that for a pot that's now at $1,125.

This is assuming that you're also of the opinion that it's about 50-50 that you're ahead against LP, and I'm not completely sure about that. If you think it's more likely he has the straight already, or worse still, a bigger set he can't lay down, then I'd consider check-calls and check-folds, depending on what you think he has and whether or not he's giving you odds to fill up.

Anyhow, if you're going to proceed here, I think it's better to try to keep English guy in (for a price).
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Postby Aisthesis » Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:46 pm

Hand 3: In light of your description of the German, I'd do one of two things:

1) Mini-raise if you think he'll re-raise, then obviously just push when it gets back to you.

2) Make it $200. The pot's big enough already, and it's not horrible if you get 2 folds. Better would be to isolate the German for almost half his stack, where he's playing against the odds big time. $200 might be a little extreme, but I'd go at least $150.
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