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Who has the EV advantage

The old guard live game pro's.
10
37%
The new guard online pro's.
17
63%
 
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Who would win?

Postby Rhound50 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:01 pm

Due to the length of the Victor Ramdin thread I thought I would make a poll.

The question is take a 10 handed live cash game table with a setup like HSP. Take the top 5 online players in the world and the top 5 llive game NL cash pros who has the EV advantage? Lets not get into specifics about players because who is top 5 is another debate altogether.
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Postby NorthView » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:03 pm

+1 for the oldies
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Postby Xaston » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:05 pm

I think that perhaps for the first 100 hours the live games pros would have the edge, at which point the edge would shift to the internet players.

Although this poll is slightly different than the statements made in the other thread. The other thread was talking about a lot of the best live players, who are actually better mixed game players than NLHE players. People like Yosh Nakano, Brad Booth, and Hung La are better live cash NL players than Chip Reese and co. That was part of my arguement as to why the internet players were best all along. Almost all of them specialize specifically in NLHE cash games, and get in way more hands/time span than the live players.
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Postby GooperMC » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:08 pm

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Rhound - I got 2 outted in a $2000 pot last year, I have also broke a cup in half playing catcher. The feelings were similar.
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Postby Xaston » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:08 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby Rhound50 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:05 pm

I agree that the game dynamic changes the longer the game goes, which is a really interesting point. Though I don't think that 100 hrs is enough to really change the swing of power, even a very smart/observant player isn't going to pick up in 100 hrs what the live pros have picked up in hundreds of thousands of hours of live play. In IM you said that the online pros are more technically sound which I agree with but the experience of playing millions of live hours is huge factor. Even at a slight technical disadvantage playing NLguys like Doyle and Chip would have a huge advantage in reading physical tells, body language and boredom control playing live. I tried to keep the vote as simple as possible which is why I didn't put specific names and I think adding in total length of the game just makes this confusing though it is pretty interesting to think about and debate.
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Postby MTPaid » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:45 pm

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:05 pm

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Rhound50 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:32 pm

"Its a pink handbag not backpack damn it." Godlikeroy

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Postby redhouse » Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:41 am

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Postby Kuso » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:14 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Rhound50 » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:28 am

"Its a pink handbag not backpack damn it." Godlikeroy

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Postby redhouse » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:47 am

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Postby GodlikeRoy » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:26 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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