M'allin

(but that's a really lousy spot to be in no doubt)

I'd have the most insane adrenaline rush after going all in in that spot. I'd be scared! In a hoarse voice I'd meekly croak and then probably just put my head down in my arms on the table and cringe expecting two insta-calls from both opponents with set over set. Fvucked!

Can't wait to hear the outcome.

Results.

I only considered pushing or making some other size raise. I did not seriously consider calling, as I couldn't think of any cards I'd like to see on the turn with such a huge pot. So I raised the $95 bet to $300. Here's the logic:

Both players were smart enough to know I'm tight and if I raise this pot, I'm not f'ing around. I have a real hand, likely an overpair. Nobody folds overpairs on boards like that, so they also think/know I'm committed. They are both getting OK immediate odds to chase a flush or straight (about 4:1), but they also know that my remaining $400 behind is going in the middle on the turn, or it isn't because the draw hit. Goodbye implied odds. Yes, both players are thinking this, despite their mediocrity/insanity. LA breeds an odd kind of bad player- they typically have experience and know how to play both bad and good.

Had one of them pushed I would have reevaluated depending on which one of them it was, whatever read I might pick up, etc. I might call the push and I might not. I'm more than capable of folding here and saving my last $400, since if one of them pushes it's nearly a guarantee that I'm behind.

Mr. A8o insta-folded with a look of disgust (he was apparently just trying to make a cheap play at a big pot), and the straddler started doing the math in his head and ultimately folded too. Score one for the good guys.

Eli

I really like your line here, the raise was a perfect amount to not pot commit a call. From the description of the players I am not super worried about the original bettor at best he has top pair, the player in the middle is always the one that worries me. This is a very good spot to slow play a big hand since there is a very good chance of you raising here. I agree that people play far worse live but if you push and get called by the player in the middle you are going to be beat almost every time.