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Postby shobute » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:16 pm

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Postby shobute » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:24 pm

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Postby Jarren » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:33 pm

Against a good player, in my opinion, once he calls the turn he is calling alomst any bet on the river. My reasoning for this is I can't imagine any hand that he would call that turn with and still need help in order to win on the river.

edit: maybe he calls the turn with A K[h] I guess
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Postby shobute » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:35 pm

AA, 55, AK, lots of flush hands.

AA gets all-in.
55 really should get all-in. (I know he said he wished he mucked to your overbet push, but that is a very different thing than pushing over a value bet.)
AK probably isn't calling any bet.
A TAG holding a flush will much more likely call a value bet than a push.

Seems like you're being results-oriented here.
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Postby Allstar7 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:37 pm

[quote="shobute"Seems like you're being results-oriented here.[/quote]

which is why I am greatly interested in your thoughts

do you know who the villain is?

do you think pushing here has a lower EV than a simple value bet give his probably hand range.

i'm trying not to be results oriented here, i want to make sure i didnt donk bet and cost myself some idiotsklansky bucks in the long run dude.
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Postby Devbert » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:40 pm

"Never cease to be amazed by the depths or excessiveness of human stupidity."
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