I am not a regular in this game - I moved over from AP due to recent shenanigans there. Most of these players have never seen me, nor me them.

Villain in this hand is 21/8/<1 over 25 hands. I have him squarely on aces. Putting aside for the moment the questionable call from the BB, the river is obviously very bad for me - so - bet/fold, or check/fold.

PokerStars 10/20 Omaha/8 (8 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , , , .
4 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) , , (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Turn: (6 BB) (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (8 BB) (2 players)
Hero bets




Villain is new to the table, but I have notes from another session several months ago 5/10 SHLO8 that this player is capable of making tricky plays but is not terribly great at poker (my note actually says "mizor" in it). I thought the c/r on flop on that board was bullshit since he cold called 2.5 out of the small blind, but in retrospect I wonder what the range of such a call really is.

PokerStars 10/20 Omaha/8 (8 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , , , .
2 folds, MP1 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) , , (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, SB raises, MP1 folds, Hero 3-bets




Villain is 47/13/1 over 50 hands or so, and is a typical player at the table. Is this a good board for the naked ace bluff? I thought it was, but perhaps into a field this is a bit optimistic.

PokerStars 10/20 Omaha/8 (8 handed) from (Format: Bet The Pot)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , , , .
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, 4 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) , , (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises



Mecosking and I had a bit of discussion about these hands and about bluffing in LO8 in general. I tend to bluff fairly frequently on scare cards or when my bullshit detector goes off. Also, when I show down unsuccessful bluffs I tend to get paid on my monsters a bit more often, so the investment may be worth it. I dunno though. Any thoughts on bluffing in general in LO8?

hand 1, LOL @ calling the EP raise of a 21/8 with that hand OOP.. Anyways, I dont see why he cant have AK/str draw there, or else a wrap (this is a great board for mizor to have a big wrap). I think a stationish 21%er, esp if he called the turnbet, will prolly call you with AK there. However, there is also the chance he has AA, and if he's stationish, like roy said, he may not vbet with em...lots of mizors at LO8 just have a pathological inability to Vbet a one pair hand on the river..so check/call prolly saves money there....also if he whiffed a draw, and has a hand with zero SD value, you may induce a bluff outta him by checking...So i think all things considered, check/calling prol best.

Hand 2, i agree with roy, this was a pretty ballsy play on your part that worked out nicely but overall, meh...if he calls that many bets cold and decides to toe it up with a PFR on a board like that, im gonna give him some credit...If he's the type that goes on bluffs like that in those situations, then more power toim, cause in the end, he's gonna pay dearly for shit like that. I mean i guess he could put you on wheel cards, but it seems like an expensive and risky bluff on his part, since the CR obligates him to fire the turn, and if a turn raise comes, theres enough in the pot that he's now priced in to chase all sorts of bullshit...Plays like this endup in disaster too often to be profitable, so id prolly give him more cred than u did. Then again, he was labelled as a mizor, so he prolly had like 2346...lolz...its like in LHE tho, if you have JT and you get threebet by a mizor and the flop comes AKx, are you really gonna CR him hoping to foldout his TT or somethin? if your answer is yes, then apparently we've figured out why im an untite player and you are a tite one, i guess...

Hand 3 i dont mind... I mean youve got 2 pair, theres a pretty fair chance you have best hand... Whats your issue with this hand roy? I mean i guess theres alot of mizors in the pot, but still, id say this is a pretty standard information-raise, bordering on val raise... I mean yeah Top and bottom pair in LO8 on a flush board is not exactly my fave hand, but its still the best one often enough to justify a raise id say...i mean i think folding is too weak, and calling, meh... not enough information, plus narrowing the field so queens cant hit thier kickers and such would prol be a goot idea.

The one nice thing about monotone boards in omaha is that either a mizor flopped it or he didnt, and if not, he's never gonna get there, and if he did, then he's gonna let you know about it because slowplaying in lo8 is even more univerally accepted to be a bad idea than it is in LHE...for this reason, i think a raise is likely to give you a good amount of information...after all, theres not gonna be any free card type plays or any BS like that...so i think if your behind you'll know it pretty quick and be able to get off the hand...i dno...im interested to hear what roy would do different,..

If you were trying to naked-ace bluff in LO8, then LOL@you x 100000000....but i dont think thats the gist of this hand...izzit?