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Here are some of my stats straight out of PokerTracker

Postby iceman5 » Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:14 am

Here are some stats of mine. Maybe some of you want to compare?

VP$IP..voluntarily entered the pot..............17.0%
W$WSF...won $ when seeing the flop......37.8%
Went to showdown...................................17.7%
Won $ at showdown.................................58.1%
Preflop raise...............................................3.7%
Aggression Factor (post flop)...................3.54

My win rate per hand (not per 100 hands) when I voluntarily enter the pot is 1.96 BBs
My win rate when I cold call a raise is..............................................................6.22 BBs

Again these number are double what PT shows which is the actual number.

Win rate......................................................27.96 BB / 100 hands
(the number listed in PT is actually half of your real win rate if you play NL. Mine shows 13.98)

Discuss.............
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Postby Nortonesque » Sun Jan 09, 2005 1:46 am

Wow, here I've been trying to get my preflop raise up to 7% and yours is only 3.7%. And your post flop aggression is huge -- mine's just above 2.
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Postby kennyg » Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:13 am

Our stats are very simlilar. Look at my post on NL ring games that's called "week 1 results- full time and 4 tabling"
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Postby Mad Genius » Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:30 am

Everything looks just fine. The only thing I was surprised about was that the PFR % did indeed seem a little bit too low. Although after doing some number crunching I realized that if you raise AK and AA-JJ everytime and raise AQ/TT half the time and don't ever raise anything else, you get to just about 3.7. Obviously you won't raise AK/AA-JJ every single time and you will raise other hands some of the time so it should roughly work out.
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Postby Felonius_Monk » Sun Jan 09, 2005 9:11 am

Felonius_Monk (stats so far only from Party/Empire and a few Stars hands)

Hands logged in this DB: 9000
VPIP: 15.5%
Won $ when saw flop: 28% (whoa this is a bit low, is it?)
Went to showdown: 17.5%
Won $ at showdown: 60%
Preflop raise: 4.5%
Postflop aggression: 2.5

BB/100: 28.6 (this needs tinkering in a downwards direction as I think I need to update PT with some patch that prevents you being awarded money on every all-in? Is this correct???)

I fold to a river bet 70% of this time, does this seem high to other people? My honest feeling is that i PAY OFF too much on the river when draws fall; could it just be I'm getting sucked out on a lot, or what?

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Postby DODGYKEN » Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:23 pm

DODGYKEN at $25 NL on Party:

Hands logged in this DB: 2363
VPIP: 9.14%
Won $ when saw flop: 21%
Went to showdown: 18.50%
Won $ at showdown: 64.41%
Preflop raise: 3.43%
Postflop aggression: 5

BB/100: -8.08BB/100

Looking at my stats it seems that I should be playing more cards. Also, my aggression is quite a bit more than Iceman's and Monk's - maybe this is a leak in my game. One of the reasons my win rate is so terrible is that I have had 3 all-in hands with KK - 2 of which I was against AA and the other I got all-in on an 8 high flop against someone who hit a set of 8's. I think having this happen 3 times in 2300 hands is more than usual!

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Postby kennyg » Sun Jan 09, 2005 3:27 pm

Tha is unusual Dodgy...but it's all good. Keep pluging away...the more experience you get the better you will become. Once you start learning how to identify what other people hold, things will get a lot easier for you. Good luck :) And stop getting KK vs AA!!! lol. happened to me twice a couple days ago..it's nevera good thing unless you can spike a king.
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Postby excession » Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:31 pm

Since beginning of December:

8000 hands played (NL 25c/50c):


Vp$iP 25.9%
PFR 8.5% (I do a lot of positional raising from LP when PT tells me passive players are limping with non-premium hands).
PFA 2.9 (Flop 4.3, Turn 1.9, River 1.5)
WtSD when saw flop 23.5%
W$ wsf 38%
W at SD 52.5%

Amount won $684.67 (8.32BB/100*)
Multitable ratio 2.1

* PT style

On my ratings this makes me borderline slightly loose/tight pre-flop and Agressive before and afterwards. ie sLAA or TAA (both are decent winning styles)
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Postby excession » Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:42 pm

Dodgy - you are TPA (tight passive aggressive).


here is an extract from my draft part 2A of PT guide on that style:


Tight Passive Aggressive

A marginally winning strategy - + 1.6BB/100 – they only play good hands but let limpers in for cheap. You can see how that cuts down their EV by comparing them to TAA’s. Easier to play against than TAA’s but do watch out when they limp as they may have a much better hand than you expect. They tend to be very patient and have a very low drop out rate. I don’t mind where they are on the table really (right is marginally preferable so you can drop very marginal hands if they don’t fold).



However your problems seem to be that you are too tight (hardly anyone with VIP in single figures makes money) and that you are overagressive post-flop. Selective agression is what is needed.Anyone over 4 PFA is pretty much maniacal in post flop play - and very easy to slowplay. Also there are so many calling stations around at these limits that trying to buy pots can get very expensive if you don't slow down when you hit a wall...
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Postby Nortonesque » Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:59 pm

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Postby DODGYKEN » Sun Jan 09, 2005 7:03 pm

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Postby excession » Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:20 am

Norton - that's a good point about his PFA - I'm not used to looking at stats where the player is that tight. His WtSD% (18.5%) is very low too (is he scaring them off and gettng no action?)

Dodgy to give you some idea of how unusually tight you are, out of 2170 players on my PT DB for this level, only 16 (0.7%) are TPA's with ViP of less than 10%. They are losing an average of 2.35BB/100.

TPA's from 10-25% (408 players) (top end of Tight in my autoratings) win an average of 1.56BB/100

TPA's who play 20-25% of hands (174 players) win an average of +3.62BB/100

Slightly loose passive agressive sLPA in the 25-30% range:
124 players +3.61BB/100

The win rate drops down again as they play more than 30% ViP.

So the simple message we are getting from the stats is 'play more hands'. If you can manage it at least twice as many!

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Postby Felonius_Monk » Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:29 am

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