Has anyone NOT noticed a difference in non Hold em games?

[Pok 7's]

[Beavis68]

[piersmajestyk]

[Beavis68]

6max and multitabling did more harm to poker than the recent event imo.

[Pok 7's]

[antneye]

[piersmajestyk]

[Felonius_Monk]

PLO has, broadly speaking, got tighter and harder to beat at the middle-high levels in the last 18 months or so. My favourite site (crypto) has been hit hard by the loss of a sports betting site (which seemed to be the skin a lot of the fish used) and the introduction of 6-max games, which has further depleted the pool (although the loss of yank players was no big loss as it was 80-90% euros anyhow). Party remains pretty easily beatable and the quality of games doesn't seem to have been hurt too much by the UIGEA thingy, although there are now fewer tables (which leads to worries about the player base drying up if they don't pick up enough new players in the rarer games, though, being the biggest site around, Party prolly has less to worry about than most).

I haven't played at too many other sites in the last 6 months but there are still good games to be found at Pacific, BetFair and, on occasion, Stars (which always had tighter tables than most of the other sites anyway, this hasn't changed). There are far fewer brilliant tables now, though; about 2 years back, tables with 100BB average pots would occasionally crop up here and there, and tables with 50BB APs were all over the place. Now I'd say a 50BB AP at a 100, 200, 400 or 500 table (levels I regularly play) would be very unusual anywhere I play and be more likely due to a couple of big pots in succession or one isolated maniac than a sustained level of widespread looseness. About 20-30BBs seem the mean AP at present; I suspect anything below 20 for full ring is close to unbeatable for any real profit.

[Beavis68]

[Johnny Hughes]

The boss poker game is and always will be no limit Hold 'em regardless of how many people are at the table. It is like chess and all the other games are like checkers...Johnny Moss said that. It used to be that Hold 'em and Seven-Five low ball were the only games played by professionals. Low ball is a cheater's game, so it went away.

For awhile, people got into 8 or better, high/low. This gives the weaker players more of a chance. It is vanishing. Good.

Limit Hold 'em is like having training wheels on your tricycle.

Poker players should specialize, learning their best game. No limit Hold 'em is the best game to specialize in. They spread it at several levels in most casinos. It is the game the new players are seeing on TV. They come up to the poker rooms and say, "I want to play the game where you can go all-in."

[Pok 7's]

[Juskimo]

[Beavis68]

[Johnny Hughes]

[Beavis68]

yes, I know it existed, but it wasn't until recently that it was really in demand.

Besides, real men play PLO.