France follows USA with anti-poker laws.
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France follows USA with anti-poker laws.
by Zmej » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:34 am
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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by Zmej » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:52 am
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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by k3nt » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:02 am
Great responses, guys. France bashing is so much fun, isn't it? Completely contrary to the realities of French history, of course, but who cares when you can feel superior to someone else?
zmej: I'm sure my French is worse than yours, so I won't even give those articles a shot.
The English article is kind of confusing, isn't it?
It looks to me like France is trying to crack down on the movement of funds in and out of poker sites, and also on online advertising. Like the US government, they have a problem because they're simultaneously funding gambling, so saying "gambling is bad" is a purely hypocritical stance. Unlike the US, they're part of the EU, which thinks it's wrong (contrary to economic fairness across member nations) to let a government stop online operators from competing with domestic operators. If I understand correctly (I'm sure Europeans know way better than I do), the EU has the power to actually stop members from enacting (some kinds of) legislation that is contrary to EU rules.
So, as a wild-ass guess from someone who knows zip about French internal politics, it seems like this ban would be less likely to become effective law in France than the US ban did in America. If it did become law, then how it would actually affect play -- I'm sure nobody in the world knows, any more than anybody is really sure now exactly what effect the US law is going to have, long-term.
EDIT: zmej, as far as I can tell (and speaking as an individual here, not a moderator!), they're not insulting you personally. It's just that with the US losing yet another war, they need to feel better by beating up on another country that once lost a war. It's irritating, but I wouldn't take it personally.
zmej: I'm sure my French is worse than yours, so I won't even give those articles a shot.
The English article is kind of confusing, isn't it?
It looks to me like France is trying to crack down on the movement of funds in and out of poker sites, and also on online advertising. Like the US government, they have a problem because they're simultaneously funding gambling, so saying "gambling is bad" is a purely hypocritical stance. Unlike the US, they're part of the EU, which thinks it's wrong (contrary to economic fairness across member nations) to let a government stop online operators from competing with domestic operators. If I understand correctly (I'm sure Europeans know way better than I do), the EU has the power to actually stop members from enacting (some kinds of) legislation that is contrary to EU rules.
So, as a wild-ass guess from someone who knows zip about French internal politics, it seems like this ban would be less likely to become effective law in France than the US ban did in America. If it did become law, then how it would actually affect play -- I'm sure nobody in the world knows, any more than anybody is really sure now exactly what effect the US law is going to have, long-term.
EDIT: zmej, as far as I can tell (and speaking as an individual here, not a moderator!), they're not insulting you personally. It's just that with the US losing yet another war, they need to feel better by beating up on another country that once lost a war. It's irritating, but I wouldn't take it personally.
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by Felonius_Monk » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:08 am
How many frenchmen does it take to def....
Oh. NVM.
Oh. NVM.
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by GodlikeRoy » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:21 am
Poker is silly.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.
Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.
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by Cactus Jack » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:24 am
"Are the players better as the stakes go up? It's not an exam; it's a buyin." Barry Tanenbaum
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by Felonius_Monk » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:24 am
The Monkman J[c]
"Informer, you no say daddy me snow me Ill go blame,
A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
"Informer, you no say daddy me snow me Ill go blame,
A licky boom boom down.
Detective mon said daddy me snow me stab someone down the lane,
A licky boom boom down." - Snow, 1993
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by The Golden 1 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:30 pm
If you want to ban Allstar it should be because he's a crappy yankees fan, but if you can't handle a joke like that then I suggest you hightail it because you're probably just opening yourself to more.
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by black_knight6 » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:33 pm
How many frenchmen does it take to def...ah crap Paris has already been taken - someone go behead Maginot!
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by Zmej » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:50 pm
"#3 pencils and quadrille pads."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when asked what CAD tools he used to design the Cray I supercomputer; he also recommended using the back side of the pages so that the grid lines were not so dominant.
"Interesting - I use a Mac to help me design the next Cray."
- Seymoure Cray (1925-1996) when he was told that Apple Inc. had recently bought a Cray supercomputer to help them design the next Mac.
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by NorthView » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:57 pm
Last edited by NorthView on Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mon May 12, 2008 1:46 am
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.
Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
When I play a patient and relaxed game I win - that simple.
Mon May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
Seriously, fuck poker.
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[21:03] NorthViewBTP: mac is a fellow mexican
[21:03] Mekosking: yup
[21:03] NorthViewBTP: you should support your bro
[21:03] Mekosking: therefore hes a fat worthless tsr obv
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