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Postby MTPaid » Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:33 pm

The baseball HOF voting came out today and every year there is debate about the Jim Rice's, the Goose Gossage's, the Andre Dawson's, and the Jack Morris's who haven't made it.

My friend and I generally agree on players, but have always disagreed with Jack Morris. I understand what he did in the post-season in his career, but I just don't think that someone with a 3.90 ERA should be in the HOF. So the arguement is this.......

I have to find 10 pitchers that pitched in the same era (the 80's) with either better numbers or guys with comparable numbers that are NOT in the HOF. These pitchers didn't have to pitch only in the 80's, but needed to have pitched through most of the 80's and had big years in that decade. For exampe, Nolan Ryan would count as he pitched in the 70's, but also pitched through the 80's pretty dominantly. Roger Clemens would count even though he came up in 84 and is still pitching, he was more dominant than Jack Morris in the 80's.

Anyway, here are Morris's stats....
254-186 3.90 ERA 3824 IP 2478K
Post-season 7-4 3.80 but his teams won 6 of the 7 post-season series he pitched in and he was their top pitcher in most if not all of these years.
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Postby TexasKowboy » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:41 am

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Postby MTPaid » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:05 am

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Postby Xaston » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:12 am

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby Juskimo » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:14 am

Morris won the most games in the majors over a 10 year stretch.

Morris once told his manager "get back to the dougout, you dont have anyone better than me" in the 10th inning of the seventh game of the world series.

Morris won two rings.

Morris was both very very good for seveal seasons and very consistent over a long stretch of time.

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