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I won but was my play right?

Postby AlamedaMike » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:32 pm

I won the hand but I feel that I mis-played it.

Comments?

FullTiltPoker Game #210495307: Table Desert Primrose - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 1: Payneful ($22.55)
Seat 2: ohlordwhyme ($60.75)
Seat 3: Mowry ($43.85)
Seat 4: AlamedaMike ($47.75)
Seat 5: man_hands ($44.95)
Seat 6: fencingcougar ($33.85), is sitting out
Seat 7: Golorp ($48.50)
Seat 8: 1monstro ($27.55)
Seat 9: baspronick ($20)
Mowry posts the small blind of $0.25
AlamedaMike posts the big blind of $0.50
baspronick posts $0.50
The button is in seat #2

Dealt to AlamedaMike [Ac] [Kd]

***Preflop ***

3 folds, baspronick checks, 1 folds, ohlordwhyme calls $0.50, Mowry calls $0.25

AlamedaMike raises to $3, 1 folds, ohlordwhyme calls $2.50, 1 folds

*** FLOP *** [Ad] [3h] [7s]

AlamedaMike bets $7, ohlordwhyme raises to $14

Damn, I like my hand. Does he have me beat? Can I fold [Ac] [Kd] here? Should I fold [Ac] [Kd] here?
AlamedaMike calls $7 Should have just raised all-in or mucked. Feel like a fish sometimes.


*** TURN *** [Qc]

That is not a good card. He could have something like [As] [Qs] or a set. AlamedaMike checks

ohlordwhyme bets $35 - pot size bet

Now think, I am getting 2:1 on my money. Do I have the best hand? Heck, I don't know. AlamedaMike calls $30.75, and is all in

ohlordwhyme shows [6h] [6s]

AlamedaMike shows [Ac] [Kd]

Uncalled bet of $4.25 returned to ohlordwhyme

*** RIVER *** [4d]

ohlordwhyme shows a pair of Sixes
AlamedaMike shows a pair of Aces
AlamedaMike wins the pot ($93.50) with a pair of Aces
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Postby T-Rod » Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:46 pm

I think you misplayed it. Min raise on the flop screams set on that board (esp since you didn't raise enough pf to eliminate scragglers).

Pot sized bet on the turn definitely says superstrength. I'm not sure what you think you are beating here. Unless you have him on a total bluff that he was, its a fold.

I think against a decent player, you are losing that hand 8 of 10 times. He appears to be a UA that will just fire away no matter what.

If you get to the river and you are really wondering if you have the best hand, you've misplayed it.

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Postby AlamedaMike » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:10 pm

My feelings exactly. The flop should have been a fold or all in.

Thanks
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Postby droqqa » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:21 pm

Couple comments here...

This is clearly a way ahead / way behind scenario. At most, if he is behind, he has 3 outs. If you are behind, you have at most 3 outs.

The preflop raise and the flop bet are standard. Once he min raises, you need to decide right then and there if you are ahead or behind. Either - a) call, with the intention of check raising / check-calling all-in on the turn or b) fold.

Re-raising all-in here on the flop is a bad idea. If your opponent is bluffing he will fold. If he has a weaker ace, he is likely to fold. Seeing the turn is not bad, as the likelihood of him drawing out is very slim. Give him a chance to bluff his chips off on the turn, which he did. Objectively, I like the way you played it. But your indecision on the flop is a bad thing. When you make that min-raise call, you have decided then and there than no matter the turn, you are getting it all-in.

PS Generally, this is a fold against most 50NL players. 9/10 times, Min-raise = monster! This was that one time.


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Postby AlamedaMike » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:50 pm

DR - nice review - I will keep this in mind the next time. Thanks

So if I had a better hand but not sure if it was the best hand then I would play it this way? Correct.

Say I had 2 pair - top and bottom - [As] [3s] and I decided to play back at him preflop.

Then I am way ahead of most hands or way behind to a hand like a set or A7.

In that case should I call his mini-raise and then all-in on the Turn or still fold my 2 pair being that most of the time he will have the afore mentioned monster (under the bed)?

I realize that TPTK is a weak holding in NL and when you are raised you should usually fold it. If they keep calling then I still have to worry that they will raise me on the River with a better hand.

I usually bet the pot and if I get called slow down - if raised I usually fold it.
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Postby droqqa » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:28 pm

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Postby AlamedaMike » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:48 pm

Some days you are the bug and some days you are the windshield. :D
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Postby AlamedaMike » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:56 pm

Some days you are the bug and some days you are the windshield. :D
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Postby T-Rod » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:09 pm

my bad... i misread the blind amount. x6bb is plenty.
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Postby AlamedaMike » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:18 pm

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