Hand #8513449-3073 at Arequipa (No Limit Hold'em)
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Started at 24/Sep/05 01:32:39

CO is at seat 0 with $31.85.
Button is at seat 2 with $0 (sitting out).
SB is at seat 3 with $24.25.
BB is at seat 4 with $20.30.
UTG is at seat 5 with $8.85.
UTG+1 is at seat 6 with $12.80.
MP1 is at seat 7 with $5.
Hero is at seat 8 with $24.55.
LP is at seat 9 with $34.30.
The button is at seat 2.

SB posts the small blind of $.10.
BB posts the big blind of $.25.


Tiburon0041:


Pre-flop:2 folds, MP1 calls. Hero raises to $1. LP calls $1. 3 folds, MP1 calls $0.75.

Flop ($3.35), 3 players:

MP1 checks. Hero checks. LP bets $.25. MP1 calls $0.25. Hero raises to
$1.75. LP re-raises to $3.25. MP1 folds. Hero calls $1.50.

Turn ($10.10), 2 players:

Hero checks. LP bets $10.10. Hero raises to $20.30 and is all-in. LP calls $10.20.

River ($50.70), 2 players, 1 all-in

Showdown:
Hero has As Ts 5s 6s Ks: flush, ace high.
LP shows 6h 7s. a full house, sixes full of sevens.

Hand #8513449-3073 Summary:

LP wins $48.20 with full house, sixes full of sevens.

He calls a 4 BB raise. Then he re-raises a check-raise. Then he calls an all-in check-raise with middle two pair? Asshole opponent is 78/35/1.13.

If he were actually in front of me, I may have hit him. I actually know what they guy from the Taj felt like. Once again, I got my money in the middle with the best possible hand and lost.

Since my return to NL at UB, I'm analyzing my hands and I've found that my biggest losses:

1) AA--all in, flopping trips, lost to 64s when he hit runner-runner flush.
2) ATs--all in on turn with nut flush, opponent hit 4-outer to boat up with 76o. (above)
3) AA--all in on flopped trips, opponent hits gutshot on river.
4) AK vs. JJ--he spiked a jack on the flop when I hit my king.
5) 88--all-in with turned full house with 3 2's on board, opponent hit 3-outer ace to win with A4o.
6) QQ--player called 6 BB raise with 98o, flopped straight.
7) TT vs. AA
8) AJs loses after flopping A-J-4 to Q8s when opponent rivers flush. Money in on turn.
9) AQs vs. JJ
10) QTs loses to 85s after turning trip Q's--all-in, opponent rivers flush.

These are literally my top 10 losing hands playing 25NL at UB. They have cost me $181.90. 6 of the 10, the money was in when I was an enormous favorite. This is running bad.

That's hardly a "Tremendously Bad Beat". First of all if he was 78/35/1.13 then he's extremely LAG preflop and would be calling you with almost anything, so it's not that hard to believe he called with 67. On the flop he had you beat and you were drawing to 9 outs, which you hit. His min-raise on the flop was a bad move and I think he played badly therefore it is a bad beat, but it's nothing too out of the ordinary.

Other then the mini bets and raises I don't think he played it badly.

I question your decisions much more than his. ATs is not a raising hand unless you're in there to steal. Why shouldn't he raise your check-rakse on the flop with top two pair? Would you think someone who raises in LP has 55-77 or 89? He thinks he has the best hand on the flop, and you probably would too if you had 67! Sure you got lucky on the turn and got him to go all in but he still had 4 outs to the full house, so how is this a horriible bad beat? I'd be more impressed by him if he had 67s, but if he's as LAG as you suggest, just note that he plays ANY connectors. Actually,he's not LAG at all...he's just XL since his agression is only 1.13. So, I HATE the check on the turn! I think you got lucky that he bet out when the flush card came - you needed to bet out there: you checkraised a co-ordinated board so you've ALREADY hidden your hand as being a flush draw, so go ahead and BET! Smart players will check behind, and he maybe be stupid, but he also doesn't seem agressive enough for you to be confident that you'll get to checkraise...AGAIN.

Keep table texture in mind here.

Since I've been playing on UB, I've noticed that at times, any action (and I mean ANY action) causes the table to fold. I've been dealt AA or KK a remarkable 11 times in less than a week--I saw the flop only 6 times. At no time was the raise larger than 4 BB. Of those 6 times, I've only won 3 at showdown, because they call with just donkey fodder.

I'm at 23/8/3.90 through 1600 hands, with a -5.52 BB/100.

Now, my rationale. To me, ATs can be a raising hand. It's the weakest of the suited Broadways, but that could very well be my limit beast coming out.

#1--Who calls a raise with 76o?

#2--Fine, he did, and he lucksacked into top two on the flop. I understand his bet-re-raise. It actually makes sense.

#3--Didn't know he had those stats till later--Laptop doesn't have PT. Just ordered a new laptop, plan to install PT when it comes.

#4--On the turn, with 3 spades out there, I go for the check-raise AGAIN. If I bet it out-right and he folds, I've gained almost nothing. Without a read, it's a possibility. The read was after the fact when I checked/imported the HH. He throws out an overbet as a probe to see where he stands. I resoundingly answer back that he's WAY behind.

#5--I could have KK, 55, or the flush with my action. Either way, he's WAY behind. I re-raised him all-in (a significant bet of almost the rest of his stack). He still figures he has to call it? That was STUPID. How can he not know that he's drawing to 4 outs? At best for him I have a set.

If the pot is $40.50 (which it was), and he has to call another $10.20, he's calling with LESS than 4 to 1 odds. Any hand that makes that bet (PFR--could I have KK? could I have AKs, AQs, AJs, ATs, 55, 666, 77, 89 etc) he is way more than a 4:1 dog to.

If misery loves company, read below. Otherwise just forget.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($58.60)
Button ($100.50)
SB ($36.42)
BB ($97.75)
Hero ($318.06)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , . SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero calls $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) , , (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3, MP raises to $6, SB calls $6, BB folds, Hero raises to $25, MP calls $51.60 (All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $32.60.

Turn: ($125.20) (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($125.20) (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $125.20

Results in white below:
Hero has 8h 8s (full house, eights full of jacks).
MP has Jc 8c (full house, jacks full of eights).
Outcome: MP wins $125.20.

I'd much rather call a raise with 76 than AT in NL.

You're not making sense when you say "almost every possible holding has you beat". Re-read your own HH, your actions tell me that you have an overpair, most likely AA with . If you were to post this HH without revealing yourhand I think that would be the most common guess, your opponent is ahead of the hand he has put you on and is getting 3:1 on his call. It's an EASY call.

It's not THAT horrible to call a raise with 76 with position, after that he doesn't really do much wrong other than his bet sizes. I'll repeat, I think he played the hand better than you. Once you get some distance to it you might agree.

Seriously, do you REALLY expect him to fold on the turn after the way you played it? Would you? Besides, you should be happy he called since you'll make money there most of the time.

Tiberon, I dont think your opponant played his hand great but I think you are missing a lot of the parts of this hand. No limit is much more about implied odds than anything else. You make a 4x raise, which is pretty standard for a $25 Nl game. The way you played your hand there is no way he is going to fold the turn. The comment that there is nothing he can beat it not true. Your raise limits what hands you can be playing it is very unlikely that you flopped the str8, and the fact that he has top 2 makes it seem unlikely that you have a set. The only real hand that I think might have me beat is KK. I would have put you on AA, or AK with As or even QQ or JJ with a spade. Yes he got lucky on the river but you got lucky on the turn too.