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What to do when the unreal beats just do not stop?

Postby nvrmnd » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:19 pm

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Postby iceman5 » Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:49 pm

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Postby Aisthesis » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:39 pm

Good advice from all.

Until it stops do everything you can to keep your head clear--take days off, go out and get drunk, have group sex every once in a while, meditate ... :)

All semi-facetiousness aside: It's just critical to keep your play completely accurate during those phases. The bankroll is not doing as well as it should anyway, and you absolutely can't afford to compound the problem with bad plays, which become VERY easy to make when things are constantly going awry.

Oh, one other thing: Moving down in limits is not a bad idea until you get a few sessions where everything is clicking. It's often a good confidence builder, and if the bad beats continue, you are at least not losing as much.
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Postby T-Rod » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:39 pm

WARNING--UNCONVENTIONAL ADVICE TO FOLLOW

I would consider moving to $100NL if your bankroll can afford it. Why move up when you are struggling? It's what I did in a similar situation b/c I was tired of players making stupid calls at the lower levels (your bad beats). You are not going to get away from this at .25/.50 NL IMHO. Its just pp.

At $100 you get more savvy players who less often are apt to try for the 3 outers.

Regardless to moving up, I'd be more selective on which table you play at. I'd have pokertracker observe at least 20-30 hands. Avoid tables that seem to be populated with too many calling stations (yes I know that sounds wrong) until you feel your confidence is back. Play against tight players only. That will help bring some balance.

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Postby iceman5 » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:04 pm

My streak of horrbile bad beats abd bad outdraws was played at stakes from $200Nl to $1000 NL, so I dont think moving up to $100NL is going to make difference.....however....Aisthesis' suggestion of some nice group sex might :lol:
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Postby nvrmnd » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:27 pm

Yeah, I really believe I've tried everything I can to get out of the hole and even made valiant effort toward teh group sex thing (to no avail :x )

See, what happened is that I had a great run at the beginning of the summer, and rather thatn being followed by mediocrity, i've been stuck in a state of TERRRIBLENESS (making up words now) instead. I had $120 in a crypto site at the beginning of the summer coming home from school. THey added the 25NL tables around that time, so i thought "Why not". Well, I made $1200 at 25NL within the first 2.5 weeks of summer.

That was the highpoint. It's been downhill ever since. I might have around $700-$800 total in the ol' roll now. I'm not certain because it is spread between sites.

But yeah, I've tried moving up/moving down/doing the hokey pokey/changing sites/just about anything.

I've even been playing more 7CS and PLO just to get away from hold'em bc it makes me sick sometimes.

I guess I should just suck it up. But it's almost humiliating to myself to see me lose so much when i KNOW that I'm a better player than this.
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Postby Acidjoe » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:29 pm

I did say no to drugs..... They just didn't listen
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Re: What to do when the unreal beats just do not stop?

Postby rdale » Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:22 pm

Taking a week away might not fix your luck, but it might fix your attitude about luck. I play near daily, my game will cresendo to amazing levels of good LAG play, and then it will crumble and I will drop 4 or 5 buy ins, and I will revert back to solid clear winning play again. Not getting overly ambitious with one pair hands, making good folds more than good calls, paying careful attention to my direct and implied odds, trying not to get myself in sticky situations or draws, remembering that AA is just a one pair hand.

I had about two months of every nut straight all in at the turn getting out drawn by two pair filling up, nearly every set on the flop running into bigger sets, if I had KK they had AA or setted up. It was the most expensive tight poker I've ever played, I kept dropping in limits and the beats kept coming, whats more is that most of the time it wasn't my choice to play for stacks, so there was no way to avoid variance, I bet they raise all in, I call with the current and very temporary nuts. There isn't much you can do if you are getting pummled left and right with the real best of it.

I took a full three weeks break from the play. I came back and played single table tournaments, monied in 3:4, placing third in one all in as a 98.7 favorite with the nut straight vs. bottom pair that lost, stopped for the afternoon and came back later. I grinded it out at the bottom for a month and now three months later, I'm stabbing at .50/1 again. I expect that it will be my main game again in few weeks, and that I will be earning decent money at poker at that level.

The only real opponent at a poker table is yourself, you have to be able properly observe and decide as to the correct play to the best of your ability. This is a game of chance that is heavily weighted in the good players favor but as with all gambling, you can lose, repeatedly, even as a 10:1 favorite. If you couple bad fortune with the cards with monkey tilted up play you have a recipe for disaster. Take a minute before putting all your chips in with one pair to consider your opponents previous plays and their likely hands. When you take a whacking stay calm and gauge your level of tilt before buying back in. There are days where the beats just roll off my back, and I have the proper mindset in dealing with them, but add outside pressures and my mental state is more likely to not handle it well. Outside pressures might even be overly concerned with hourly rates/statistics, needing money, woman troubles, I'm hungry or tired. You shouldn't play until those things are in a comfortable place in your mind, other wise you will not cope well with some Dane check raising all in with a gutshot and catching a running two pair against your KK.
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