Overlook my preflop raise - it should have been bigger after 3 limpers or none at all but I was caught up at another table and wasn't paying great attention.

What hand would button limp after two limpers then minreraise after a raise and two callers?

Call or fold?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed)

Hero ($475.20)
BB ($440.60)
UTG ($140)
MP ($516.85)
CO ($200)
Button ($399.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , . CO posts a blind of $4.
1 fold, MP calls $4, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $4, Hero raises to $16, BB calls $12, MP calls $12, CO calls $12, Button raises to $28, Hero calls $12, BB calls $12, MP calls $12, CO calls $12.

Flop: ($140) , , (5 players)
Hero bets $48, BB folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button raises to $371.35, Hero???

Final Pot: $882.70

It doesnt matter what hand the button has, his play makes no sense.

With a monster, say AA, all he does is let hands in for cheap. And who limp-raises from the button anyway?
With a good multiway hand, say a small PP or suited connector, he just gives you (possibly AA or KK) a chance to re-raise.

If I had to guess, I would say that he mis-clicked preflop, accidentally hitting raise (thus the min-raise), instead of call. I would thus rule out AA and KK, or QQ for that matter. I put him on a hand that he intended to limp with, and call a raise - small PPs are the most likely.

As for his flop play, I have no idea. I would have preferred a check to see what he did first, or at least a bigger flop bet. It's tough to know where you stand.

His play looks like it was made out of frustration - almost as if he felt the need to steal the pot after his earlier mistake. I cringe and call - but I wouldnt be surprised to be shown 66 or 44 here. Nor would I be surprised to see QJ or even AT for that matter. He really could have any two here.

By the size of the final pot, it seems that you called - curious to hear the results.

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Under normal circumstances you would fold with TPTK unless you know your opponent to be a maniac. Could he be a bad enough player that he plays AA/KK/QQ like that? I would be very surprised if he had a small set or two pair. My first instict was to fold, but after considering it some more I think I would call. My guess would he has a pp 88-JJ. If he plays AA/KK like this you'll know for the next time...

Looks like a muppet with AA. I'd let it go on the flop with no hesitation after that raise.

This comes down to a read, this is a play that a muppet makes with a monster AA or KK, reraises and try to build a pot. Like you said this play seems stupid no matter what cards he has. I probably fold here, I really think he is going to turn over AA or KK.

My guess is that he was going to incorrectly slow play KK preflop from the button, but when you raised he decided to reraise. I play the hand out about 25% of the time with that 25% reserved for opponents that I am likely ahead of 2/3 of the time.

It is 6-max, and you should probably be getting more aggressive with AQ, however I think even at 6-max it is a position play hand. I can see the logic in saying that the action is all but closed to me, I can pump it up here and take iniative if I am called. I only raise AQ from the blinds against one late position limper, from the button I love to raise it up even against two early position limpers with the blinds left to act.

I see people use this move with small/medium pockets. Don't ask me why, but that would be my guess. Now, either he has a set or is drawing to two outs. Considering his all-in move I'd guess he's drawing to two outs with something like 77-TT, he should make a more reasonable raise (or cold call) with a set.

The hands that warrant a raise are Q4, Q6, QQ, AQ, KQ ( doubtful ), 66, 44, KK, AA, JJ ( thinking you have AK with a 4x BB raise ).

My guess is that he has 66 or has KK and is a timid player scared of an A flop. I would pin him on KK before AA though; but there are far too many hands out there to call this; my impulse is to fold.

To get a better response some history on his preflop bet patterns would be needed.

But you can still feel good to let it go by the classic wisdom of min-raise == monster

Droqqa - you really expect to be shown a set here?

rdale - I have no problems raising AQ here. The reason is this. The table was limping over 50% of the time as a whole. Everyone was pretty much incredibly loose-passive. Thus, I'm gonna raise my AQ and apply a lot of pressure postflop (hit or miss). I don't mind being out of position when I am likely to have the best hand AND I am the aggressor.


I didn't mean to include my action but because I showed the Final Pot Size, people must have figured out by now that I called. I called for two reasons. The first was that I could only put him on two hands that could beat me, for a total of 9 combinations. However, as droqqa said I thought it possible that he misclicked preflop and now flopped TP or midpair or something and wanted to take the pot down representing a big hand. The second reason was that because of my weak bet I expected as little as AK to raise me here. If he had KK or especially AA I didn't think he would play it that fast knowing that I was most likely drawing slim (or he was). My experience at 2/4 has shown me that people slowplay big pocket pairs much moreso than they do at 5/10 (even on drawy-heavy boards). Because this board contained no draws I thought there was no reason for him to be playing it that fast.

Admittedly, I also called because I really wanted to see if he was bad enough to play AA/KK that way. Terrible reason, I know. Regardless, he had KK and I didn't improve.

Another thing you may try is betting more...say around $100...that would be a better probing bet. The problem is..if it's called you have to slow down..if it's raised you have to fold. But it would probably give you a better read on the type of hands you're up against.

Yeah. I never bet 1/3rd pot. As a matter of fact I always bet around full pot, usually a little less, sometimes more. I don't know what I was thinking.