Advanced search

What do I have here ?

Hand analysis. Post your trouble hands here

Moderators: iceman5, LPF Police Department

What do I have here ?

Postby digital scar » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:59 pm

Ok, I am in the BB in this hand and I wanted to see if you guys can guess what me and my opponent have.

This guy had been blind stealing for a while and I'm not a huge blind defender unless I have a good hand or the guy stealing has a big stack and I have a good implied odds hand (does this strategy sound correct?) but this guy had a big stack and so did I, plus he had been playing quite LAGish so.....


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed)

MP1 ($4.80)
MP2 ($10)
MP3 ($19.70)
CO ($7.40)
Button ($9.40)
SB ($25.40)
BB ($15.95)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($25.50)

Preflop:
7 folds, SB raises to $0.5, BB calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1) [Js], [Ac], [8h] (2 players)
SB bets $0.3, BB raises to $1, SB raises to $3, BB calls $2.

Turn: ($7) [8s] (2 players)
SB bets $4.2, BB calls $4.20.

River: ($15.40) [4s] (2 players)
SB bets $9.1, BB calls $8.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: $32.75


Results later-
The Big Lebowski: Are you employed, sir?
The Dude: Employed?
The Big Lebowski: You don't go out looking for a job dressed like that? On a weekday?
The Dude: Is this a... what day is this?
User avatar
digital scar
 
Posts: 214
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:32 pm
Location: Lincoln, Ne

Postby BadBeatMan » Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:50 am

User avatar
BadBeatMan
 
Posts: 457
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:07 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Postby rdale » Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:00 am

User avatar
rdale
 
Posts: 1743
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:10 pm

Postby GodlikeRoy » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:43 am

He has AJ, maaaybe AK. You have J8.
User avatar
GodlikeRoy
 
Posts: 7430
Joined: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:43 am

Postby Stoneburg » Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:33 am

User avatar
Stoneburg
 
Posts: 5931
Joined: Mon May 09, 2005 9:03 pm
Location: Sweden

Postby droqqa » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:05 am

Not easy to figure out this one - but I'll give it a shot.

Preflop - It hard to put you on any decent pair here - you probably would have re-raised. But given that you say you dont like to defend, I'd say you have a big A, or suited connectors, or 2 broadway cards.

Flop - You raised on the flop, so you like it. I dont think you raise a draw here, especially because there is an A on board. I like you for AJ, AT, or maybe AQ here.

Turn - with the 8 pairing and you flat calling, it looks like you have an A and are hoping that the Jack plays (he does not have AK or AQ). AQ or AT.

River - not much changed. Maybe you backed into a spade draw on the turn.

My official guess for your hand....[As] [Qs]

D

PS - "There's a beverage here man!"
User avatar
droqqa
 
Posts: 1022
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:41 pm

Postby allstar » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:10 am

I'd bet you had J8 and he had AK. When you took the pot from him he called you every name in the book as you laughed and made notes that he cant fold TPTK.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake...

He'll flip you, he'll flip you for real - Fenster
User avatar
allstar
 
Posts: 51
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:05 pm
Location: Mos Eisley

Postby Twelver » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:19 am

I could see you with JJ or J8. I think he could have AK/AQ...I think either one of you could have A8
Mekos King (10:21:59 PM): one of the first rules of manlaw
Mekos King (10:22:06 PM): is never ever try to suck backup to a bitch
Mekos King (10:22:09 PM): who caught u cheatin
Mekos King (10:22:23 PM): unless your married and would lose like money inna divorce
Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

Heat517163 (5:05:37 PM): black people man
Heat517163 (5:05:40 PM): they travel in packs
User avatar
Twelver
 
Posts: 3830
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:03 am
Location: Atlanta

Postby AlexMR » Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:45 am

You have 88 and he has AA. :shock:

I dont undertsnad this hand. You might have JJ also.
[17:16] alitomr: http://micropenis.ws/forum/viewtopic.php?t=723
[17:19] mekosking: wow
[17:19] mekosking: i give that poof a week tops
[17:19] mekosking: before he snuffs it
[17:19] mekosking: I THINK THAT MAY BE NV
[17:20] mekosking: IN DISGUISE
[17:20] alitomr: LOLZ
User avatar
AlexMR
 
Posts: 3851
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:27 am

Postby Twelver » Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:08 pm

results?
Mekos King (10:21:59 PM): one of the first rules of manlaw
Mekos King (10:22:06 PM): is never ever try to suck backup to a bitch
Mekos King (10:22:09 PM): who caught u cheatin
Mekos King (10:22:23 PM): unless your married and would lose like money inna divorce
Mekos King (10:22:33 PM): then u suckup just long enuf to get close enough to killer obv

Heat517163 (5:05:37 PM): black people man
Heat517163 (5:05:40 PM): they travel in packs
User avatar
Twelver
 
Posts: 3830
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:03 am
Location: Atlanta

Postby digital scar » Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:33 am

OK I like everybody's guesses here and alot of those hands would make sense. The reason I posted this hand is because I got really lucky with winning this hand and I was way off base with what he had.

I first must say that I don't always play like this, and I put him on a pure aggressive steal and it just so happens that I lucked out in the end and so I thought I would post this hand becuase its a good example of putting a read on somebody and then figuring out that your read might be way off base and then getting odds to draw to your hand.

I got really lucky, but I was just trying to be aggressive with my hand, or lack there of and then I made a good draw.

Here is the official hand-

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed)

MP1 ($4.80)
MP2 ($10)
MP3 ($19.70)
CO ($7.40)
Button ($9.40)
SB ($25.40)
Hero ($15.95)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($25.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [Qs], [Ks].
7 folds, SB raises to $0.5, Hero calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1) [Js], [Ac], [8h] (2 players)
SB bets $0.3, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($7) [8s] (2 players)
SB bets $4.2, Hero calls $4.20.

River: ($15.40) [4s] (2 players)
SB bets $9.1, Hero calls $8.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: $32.75

Results in white below:
SB has Ad Jd (two pair, aces and jacks).
Hero has Qs Ks (flush, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins $31.90. SB wins $0.85.


Pre Flop I'm just not gonna lay down [Ks] [Qs] to the small blind who is a loose LAG. Infact I think I would have been better off re-raising him PF but that is a mistake that I made, and not the only 1 in this hand.

Flop-He weak leads for 1/3 the pot and so I decide to find out how much he really likes his hand with some good 'ol aggression and raise him the pot. I'm thinking that will shut him up and we'll be dont with it and move on, but uhh ohh he re-raises me back $2, the size of the pot. I'm now thinking he might actually have a real hand here. I'm getting 2.5 to 1 on my call here, which all I really have now is a gut shot draw which I would atleast need to be getting 5 to 1. So the odds are not there but I'm also thiinking that he does not have [As] [Ks] or [As] [Qs] for the nut flush draw so I do also have a back door nut flush draw because I doublt he would be re-raising my hand on the flop with a weak suited ace. So I make the call saying to myself that if I don't hit my Straight on the turn or its not another spade I'm done with the hand.

Turn- Interesting card here, the SB could easily have Jacks down and I'm drawing dead but that is not the hand I put him on because I would think he would make a smooth call on the flop and then check the turn and wait for me to bet and the pop me back huge. I think he just has a strong Ace without the flush draw so I have a feeling that if my 10 hits for the Straight I'm good and if one of my flush cards hit I'm also good. The villian bets $4.20 into a $7 dollar pot giving me a call of $4.20 to win a pot that has $11.2 in it so I'm getting 2.7 to 1 which is almost the exact odds I need to be getting to draw to my hand, plus I know that if I do hit my hand I'm gonna win his whole stack. So i call it.

River- I hit my draw and he moves all in for me and I call him, winning his stack.

This hand is an example of how I play when I'm in a LAGish mood and then once I figured out that I was behind I used odds and implied odds to help me out with the rest of the hand. I'm pretty happy with the way this hand worked out but I do realize that I was pretty lucky in this one because once he re-raised my flop raise I knew he had a real hand but I was not ready to give up that easily. Now if he would have came over the top of me even a dollar more on the flop re-raise I probably would have folded.

That's about it. I just thought it was an interesting hand and I'm glad some of you guys posted your ideas on what I had. Thanks alot.

Alright so now that the results are in what does everybody think?

Flame away at this LAG/Maniac/Fish :oops: :wink:

Just kidding, normally I play a really TAG type of game but I do mix it up and this hand just happends to be one of those.
The Big Lebowski: Are you employed, sir?
The Dude: Employed?
The Big Lebowski: You don't go out looking for a job dressed like that? On a weekday?
The Dude: Is this a... what day is this?
User avatar
digital scar
 
Posts: 214
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 1:32 pm
Location: Lincoln, Ne


Return to No Limit Hold'em Cash Games

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests

cron