Was i destined to lose a stack here?

***** Hand History for Game 2681026026 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, September 09, 07:19:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 37731 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: UofMGoBlue97 ( $108.90 )
Seat 2: dsrtflopper ( $77.90 )
Seat 3: DevilsFoe ( $116.25 )
Seat 4: DebtKill ( $157.66 )
Seat 5: CSIppoker ( $74.85 )
Seat 6: JHYDE21 ( $40.43 )
Seat 7: BozoDunce ( $100.97 )
Seat 8: deftmix ( $213.50 )
Seat 9: Betty_82 ( $45.20 )
Seat 10: turk231 ( $92 )
turk231 posts small blind [$0.50].
UofMGoBlue97 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to turk231 [ Ks As ]
dsrtflopper folds.
DevilsFoe folds.
DebtKill raises [$6].
CSIppoker folds.
JHYDE21 folds.
BozoDunce raises [$15].
deftmix folds.
Betty_82 folds.
>You have options at Table 37307 Table!.
turk231 calls [$14.50].
UofMGoBlue97 folds.
DebtKill calls [$9].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, Ah, 8c ]
turk231 checks.
DebtKill bets [$20].
BozoDunce calls [$20].
turk231 is all-In.
DebtKill folds.
>You have options at Table 37307 Table!.
BozoDunce calls [$57].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
turk231 shows [ Ks, As ] two pairs, aces and eights.
BozoDunce shows [ Ac, Ad ] a full house, Aces full of eights.
BozoDunce wins $217 from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of eights.
>You have options at Table 37091 Table!.
>You have options at Table 37413 Table!.

You called a raise and and re-raise OOP w/AKs?
I think you should fold this pre flop. Your opponets are screaming to you that one of them has a hand, and even if neither of them has Aces or Kings, at best pre flop you are a coinflip.

The check raise all in on the flop is just giving your money away I think.
You had a raise and a re-raise PF and now the flop comes with and Ace and 2 clubs and you check and there is a bet and a call before the action gets back to you. Do you really think TPTK is the best hand here given the pre flop action and then the flop action?

What hands did you put you opponents on to where you did think the TPTK was the best hand? If you are going to check raise this flop then you need to have a set so that you get your opponents commited to the pot. It's turns out that you would have lost your money to set over set here anyways but these guys were telling you they had big hands by the pre flop action.

If there ever was a time to lay down TPTK, this is it. I don't want to sound harsh or anthing even close to that, but I think you definatly could have saved yourself a buy in here. Maybe the advice I'm giving is weak/tight but.........

thanks for the reply, my main game has been sh/limit and i am still getting used to nl,but i take from your post that AKs is no good to a raise and a reraise? should i fold when ever i have my AKs raised?

Completly agree with laying this down preflop. 95% of the time I would not play AK against a raise and a reraise.

here's my logic behind folding it:

you have nothing invested at the start of the hand....you paid your $0.50 big blind....but that's not really "yours," anyway. there's no way you're going to make any more money if you hit your hand and you're ahead (if you hit your A and no one has an A...they'll fold pretty quick. same for the K). you have the potential to lose a lot (TP vs. overpair or set). and the initial raiser may very well have KK/QQ and decide to push preflop. you are at best a coinflip....but you don't get paid off if you hit.

jon

Thanks again for the replys guys,yes in hindsight the reraise screams AA,KK, to which i am a big underdog ,dont worry about being harsh! I welcome critisism !lol. only way you get any better.