$1/$2 NL at Prima

#1) UTG limps, I raise to $10 in MP with [Kc]. Only UTG calls.

Pot is $23. Flop comes [8h][8c]. He checks and I bet $16 and he calls.
Pot is $55. The turn is the . Check/check.
Pot still $55. The river is the and he leads for $104. When you stop puking...you do what?
Why did I check the turn? Im working on mixing up my play with big pairs on these type hands. What does he have that he would play UTG and call that flop? AJ? QQ? AA? If he has anything like that a free card doesnt really hurt me. I wanted him to bet the river, but I didnt think he would overbet by that much.

2) I raise to $8 with [Ah] in MP.. Only button calls. He called my $10 raise earlier with K4s, flopped a flush draw and hit it at the turn. I had bet the flop and checked the turn when the flush hit. He checked behind me. I checked the river and he bet 1/2 pot which I called.

Back to the hand.

Pot is $19. Flop is [6h][9s]. I bet $15 and he calls.
Pot $49. Turn is the . I bet $25 and he calls.
Pot $99. River is the . I check, he bets $80. And I do what?

Hand #1 I would never fold. I'm really thinking of something like JQ or AQ. eh...I just don't see how you can fold there.

Hand #2 Gotta call again. $80 to win $180. You're getting a little better then 2/1..and when you checked...you set yourself up to induce a bluff. I think you beat him more then half the time here...especially with that big bet he made.

#1 I think you're beaten, probably by JJ or a less likely quads.

#2 I think you need to call. He might be bluffing a busted draw, neither the flush or straight (for JT) got there so the only reasonable hands that beat you are QQ (should have re-raised preflop?) and JJ, both of which he should have woken up sooner with. The hand I'm most worried about is QJs.

#1 I think he started with and he got lucky and hit the flush I fold here

#2 I tink he was slow playing trip Q's I fold

I'll start with #2 because that's where I feel confident in my opinion. I think that you probably induced a bluff there. Seems like too large of a bet to JUST be a value bet... someone would only bet that much if they were trying to gain some folding equity too. That rules out alot of the hands that beat you, even if it's not a bluff. But I think it is a bluff. Anyway, call.

on #1.... that's a tough situation. I think that folding and calling are both pretty close in EV. I'd probably call. I know you're trying to change up your play, but I still really really dislike the check on the turn.

Any reads on the players? What hands they will play for raises, etc.?

I would probably fold #1 until I had a better idea of how this person played. You raised to 5xBB which depending on how loose this guy is, he could have a large range of hands. Even 9Ts isn't out of the realm of possibility. I would fold and clean up my puke.

Is this guy smart enough to remember exactly how he played the last hand and adjust accordingly on this one to make you think he's bluffing? It certainly looks like a missed draw bluff, but QJs, Q9s, KTs are all a possibility. Meh. I call, almost because I need the info on this guy.

#1. When I see an overbet on river its rarely a bluff. Not many 1/2 players do that. I think he has trips or better and hopes you have AQ or something decent.

#2. If he slowplayed a set I think he would make a smaller bet on river. None of the draws got there. Against this guy (K4s) I think you have to call. Why the small bet on turn?

hand one looks to me like he wants a call. I make his bet with a variety of hands, all of which can beat your kings.

hand two, i think you have to call. i wouldn't be suprised to be shown something like [Th]

Also, after the hand before, why did you only bet half the pot against a manic flush chaser? i don't like the call, but i think you've gotta make it here

Hand #1.
I think it would have helped if you bet the turn to have a better idea of what he has. I would fold to a 2x pot overbet unless I know this guy is a notorious bluffer or does this with weak hands.

The final board is pretty dangerous. An 8 beats you, he could have completed his flush, JJ or QQ beat you. The hands that you beat are AJ, AQ, QJ and playing them this strong would be very surprising.

One hand that I think is a real possibility is JJ. He could have flopped the boat, and with the third flush card hitting he hopes you made the nut flush with AKs or something and hopes can stack you. If you would have made the flush, his bet might look like a steal on a scare card and it would be a tough laydown.


Hand #2:
I would call this. Given that you know he's a flush chaser, he might be betting his missed draw. A lot of people assume you raised with AK and missed your hand.
I think QQ/JJ would have raised earlier, they would want to get all the money in the middle. QJ or KT are remote possibilities, but if he got lucky with those so be it.

#1) I really thought I was ahead of either AJ or some middle pair. Alot of guys will call a flop bet with a J88 flop with 99, 77 and hands like that, hoping that I have AK and wont bet the turn.

If he has a hand like that, he usually wont call the turn because he'll be convinced I have an overpair. So I checked behind so I could get him to bet the river thinking he was ahead. I never expected him to bet double the pot.

I really didnt want to call that, but something told me to. I was about to fold but I kep t hearing "call....call...call" inside my head, so I did. He had AJ.


#2) I really shouldve bet the turn harder here. I was in another big hand on another table and didnt think about it long enough when I bet the turn.

In the K4s hand that I played against him, he checked behind on the turn when he hit the flush and then only bet 1/2 pot on the river. This time he bet almost full pot on the river when I checked to him which made me pretty suspicious so I called. He had [Jh] and I took it down.

I will declare hand #1 an amazing call. A good number of hands there that beat you, and a 2x overbet. Wow, that was something.

On party I would put a note on that guy, then go after him from some other skin account, so I have the advantage he doesn't know what hit him...

Theres a funny thing about "amazing calls" though. When you make that call and lose, it looks like youre a moron calling station.

Also, this was at Prima, not Party.

I knew it

Damn I'm good sometimes.