Its true, I shoulda been more careful with my gorilla math.

To rdale: I'm not sure if your post was arguing with excession, but if it was you are both arguing for the same point . Excession was saying that since the minimum raise means nothing and most people know it means nothing no sane play with a monster hand would just call behind a min raiser with most of the table to act behind him because he is going to see a flop with far more players than his hand wants to.

I did think about making an $8 raise (so then it is $10 to go) but settled on the $10 raise because I know that my raise looks like a premium pair out of the blinds and I'm just gonna make it expensive for anyone who wants to call me and try and out-flop my hand. They are both probably about as equally effective as the other so maybe making it $10 to go would have been a little wiser.

I do agree that if you call (which I did) the re-raise that you are looking to flop a jack or get out of the hand (which was also my plan).

I'm sticking to my guns about re-raising out of the blinds with my J-J though. While a lot of overcards can flop, there are still far more flops that I am happy with. In addition, most players will use my raise out of position to correctly put me on a premium hand. Of course it is no fun to basically give away your holdings, but at the same time this means that people know they are going to have to have a real hand to go to war with me so they will be less likely to call. I see no reason to play a premium hand like J-J the same way I would play 2-2 in this particular situation.

The end of the story, for those that are interested: As if he wasn't sending strong enough signals preflop with the EP min raise and the min-reraise on me, he bet 1/10th the pot after I checked a Q-2-2 rainbow flop. I hate folding to a pidly bet like 1/10th the pot but this player had proven adequately to me that he was a chronic min-raise-my-monsters player so I folded (and he showed Q-Q). He did this a couple other times while I was at the table, always with big pairs.

The thread is pretty pointless now that I realize I goofed up on my math though. The hand is pretty straightforward.