Okay - I limp in the SB and I flopped an okay draw - wrong flush cards.

FullTiltPoker Game #209264054: Table Broadbent - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 1: chaipas ($115.15)
Seat 2: pwhit22 ($179.50)
Seat 3: dikwad ($144)
Seat 4: Viscant ($240)
Seat 5: Rockhopper ($94.60)
Seat 6: bluesman13 ($101.40)
Seat 7: davenelson ($73.80)
Seat 8: AlamedaMike ($172)
Seat 9: halvorsen1 ($221.50)
AlamedaMike posts the small blind of $1
halvorsen1 posts the big blind of $2
bluesman13 posts a dead small blind of $1
bluesman13 posts $2
The button is in seat #7

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to AlamedaMike

2 folds, dikwad calls $2, 2 folds,

bluesman13 checks, AlamedaMike calls $1, halvorsen1 checks

*** FLOP ***

AlamedaMike checks, halvorsen1 checks, dikwad bets $4, bluesman13 folds, AlamedaMike calls $4,
halvorsen1 calls $4

*** TURN ***

Cool, I hit my hand, now what? Okay, I will slowplay by checking.

AlamedaMike checks, halvorsen1 bets $21, dikwad calls $21

Strange - the BB bet into the flop bettor. Now the real question. How do I play this hand. I now have the nuts with one card to come. There are 2 on the board and one of the players could be on a flush draw. Should I try and take the pot now or wait until a blank hits the river? If I raise and get called and a comes I might lose more? If a does not come then I will win more if the board does not pair. I call.

AlamedaMike calls $21

Pot $84 *** RIVER ***

That is a close as to a blank as I could hope for. Now what? A small bet like 2/3 the pot or a check and hope that someone bets? If they are both on a flush draw and missed I will not get called. If one had a set or 2 pair I might get a call. I decide to bet out.

AlamedaMike bets $60

They both fold - I guess that I should have checked or bet less?

Since I went check, call, check, call, bet they said hummmm and folded. Being out of position hurt me some.

That was my first thought and I did not go through with it. Being out of position I needed to fire on the Turn.

Thanks

I am a great believer in firing when I make my hand, especially when there are draws galore out there. Personally if the guy is willing to bet $21, another is willing to call for $21 then maybe they will call still for $50?

The fact you have poor position is another reason I might check raise that turn rather than wait till the river. Also if the flush card does hit on the river and there is a big bet then you have a tough decision to make. Raising the turn puts the boot squarely on the other foot. You have the sort of hand that is nicely disguised too so getting those calls is a good possibility.

I save the slow playing for made flushes (sometimes) and boats or better. Anything else that can change on the turn of a card I am jamming it up.

Rich

Flop-- OOP I fold. You are hoping to hit your gutshot on a flush heavy board--Yuck. The probable outcomes are: pay a lot to draw and miss, pay a lot and hit but lose monster pot to flush, pay a lot and hit and win a small pot. Ugh.

Turn--You hit your hand on a draw happy board. I hate just calling. You have to raise this and charge the guys drawing. I might of just pushed in.

River--I don't think the 2[s] is a total blank. A lot of people will bet or call a turn bet if they have A[s] x[s] there. Of course, he just hit a monster if he did. K[s] x[s] is probably calling there too. I'm not scared to death of a backdoor flush, but it pretty much eliminates the big payday from this hand IMHO. I check the river or perhaps check raise.

Well tr, I said I still suck at this game. Actually I misread the board and I though that I had an OESD That was a clear fold for $4. Even with the implied odds.

I compounded my mistake by not firing on the Turn.

I have too many ideas floating around in my head and it has not become natural yet. I have to think about what I want to do.

I need more experience and I need to concentrate more.

It's not an easy game, Mike. I certainly don't play every hand right or even like I wanted to play it at the time!

I do much much better in live games. I think I am going to play the lower limits online just for fun and forget about making any money at it.

$ 0.25 / $ 0.50 blinds max buyin $50 stay off the $100 and $200 tables.

I crushed the nickel and dime NL table on Poker Starts - $3.00 to $43.00

Like you said not easy at all.

Find someone that I can beat and beat them.

Mike... like Trod said, that should've been an EASY fold on the flop... he bet pot, and you're chasing 3 outs (as the club completes a flush...)...

Also, another reason to bump up the turn is that, since you're figuring AT LEAST one of these idiots is on a flush draw that probably (hopefully) won't hit, you're not gonna get any more money out of them by calling and trying to push hard on the river... They may see a $30 turn raise as them having good "implied odds" (although they don't, as if the club hits and they bet big, you're gonna fold), and may call the raise... But, once their flush doesn't come, anyone chasing is gonna fold to a .50 bet on the river...