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Postby slaz13 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:22 am

How is my play here? BB is a rock (17% VP$IP through 55 hands), but is in the big blind so tough to read.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed)

CO ($9.25)
Button ($20.65)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($30.85)
UTG ($20.9)
Hero ($61.25)
UTG+2 ($20.27)
MP1 ($30.22)
MP2 ($25)
MP3 ($5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [6h], [6s]. SB posts a blind of $0.1. MP2 posts a blind of $0.25. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) [3d], [Ad], [6d] (8 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3, Hero calls $3, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($8) [4s] (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($16) [2s] (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $26

Result:

BB wins with flush (2d 4d)


I really thought he had an ace (maybe Ah Jd or something) his overbet on the flop seemed weak. Is it weak just calling the flop? I just didn't want to get reraised all-in, and have to give it up.

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Postby scarface » Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:14 pm

I think a reraise might have saved you some money, or maybe get you a free card. If you reraise and he moves all in, you could have folded and saved yourself some money. If he just calls and checks the turn (trying to trap you), you might want to check behind to try and get the full on the river. If you thought you were ahead on the flop and he is playing an Ace, then you want to get him out of the pot before another diamond falls. Sorry, but I think that raising would have been a better way to go here, as long as you feel you can let it go to an all-in.

Edit: I just noticed that his flush was only 4 high, that's pretty weak with 2 cards left to come, if you reraise, he might try to get it shown down for cheap by checking and calling.
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Postby Stoneburg » Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:19 pm

I would most definetely have raised it on either the flop or turn to define my hand. If he really is a rock and calls a pot-size raise you should be able to put him on a (non nut) flush and hopefully he will give you free cards to hit your boat.

The way you played it seems awfully weak, basically you're drawing to a full house without the odds and probably without any implied odds (I don't see him calling a big raise with a 4: high flush on a paired board.
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Postby Rhound50 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:30 pm

More often than not you are ahead here, I would have raised this flop, thought when you get called or reraised by the rock you have to start to think that you might be behind, or atleast up against a really big draw.
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Postby laynegt » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:37 pm

when a rock overbets up front into a field of 7, I tend to think he's strong.

against most opponents, you need to raise that flop everytime to get info...you put him on AJ, why didn't you raise? If he comes back over the top big, no big deal, you fold.

the problem w/ calling is you have no idea where you are and have priced in other draws - this is a recipe for losing a big pot when you can't get away from your hand (notice how you just went into call station mode). i think you were very lucky to get heads up against such a passive opponent. and honestly, i like folding the flop more than calling (well, it's close anyway) b/c you're in early position and have 5 ppl to act behind you.
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Postby Rhound50 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:41 pm

Actaully laynegt an overbet from ep from the rock screams, I have a strong hand but its also a hand that I need to protect ie I dont have a big flush, so the read of a big A with no diamond seems to make sense. I still would have raised the flop, first it most likely pushes out the one big diamond behind you, plus it often gets you a free card on the turn.
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Postby iceman5 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:18 pm

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Postby slaz13 » Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:12 am

Thanks for the feedback. I thought at the time that I might be ahead, but even if I was behind, that if I hit the boat and fillup I could take his stack. I think he would expect me to raise a set, and could easily put me on the K or Q of diamonds, by just calling all the way down, so I thought he would have a hard time laying down the flush.
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