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Postby AlamdeaMike » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:41 pm

Okay guys - I know that I should not be call any amount of money with this weak a hand.

However, it worked out exactly as I had hoped.

My question is on my Turn play. I got my 3rd five and I felt that I had the best had barring JJ, unlikely.

Was the raise on the Turn correct and the right amount?

The you can give me some heck about not playing 57s for a raise.

Thanks

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (9 handed)

CO ($169.95)
Button ($296.25)
SB ($435.90)
BB ($606.30)
UTG ($121.85)
Hero ($355.70)
MP1 ($734.35)
MP2 ($675.15)
MP3 ($113.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [7s], [5s].
1 fold, Hero calls $4, 2 folds, MP3 calls $4, 1 fold, Button raises to $8, 1 fold, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8, MP3 folds, Button calls $4.

Flop: ($42) [Js], [5d], [4s] (3 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8, Button calls $8.

Turn: ($66) [5c] (3 players)
BB bets $24, Hero raises to $48, Button folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: $138
Last edited by AlamdeaMike on Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby iceman5 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:48 pm

I'll stick to the turn action, because preflop is giving me an ulcer.

I would raise quite a bit more on the turn in canse he has a bigger flush draw. Hes looking very weak with those small bets so he probably doens have much and will fold when you raise bigger, but if you only min raise and a flush card hits, you might be sorry. Make it $100 to go (or more) and take it down.
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Postby T-Rod » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:50 pm

I'm going to treat your playing 75s like playing a suited connector. Essentially if you are calling a big raise you are looking to bust a big pair with a well disguised hand. It's not that bad of a play if you are capable of letting go.

Okay the BB has a big premium hand to start. Button? Probably but not sure with just the min raises.

Flop--8 into a 42 pot is pretty flimsy. Smells like in unimproved AK or maybe some kind of 88-10 that's scared of the J. If they had AJ or top pair they'd be betting to stop any flush draws, no?

Thus, when your 5 hits i say you are way ahead and probably could slow play a bit more and just call. I don't think your min reraise was that bad though.

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Postby AlamdeaMike » Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:09 pm

Don't lose your entire stack in an unraised pot or with only one pair.
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Postby Rhound50 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:55 am

Well I play looser than Ice I will occasionally limp with hands like this so no ulcer here thought I'm not sure I call a raise and a reraise. On the turn I dont like the min raise, it screams stregth and that is not what you want. Worse still a min raise gives your opponant odds to call with a bigger flush draw. Make your raise something like $75, this also will built you a pot and if your opponant calls the pot will be bigger so he will be more likely to call a big river bet if he has a big pair.
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Postby kennyg » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:06 am

I would probably raise the flop. Though your hand isn't great yet..you have tons of outs with decent fold equity. It also builds the pot if you do hit your monster...which you did on the turn.

You really should be folding this 75 suited preflop IMO. I don't mind the call of the raises because they are so small....but...preflop you have to let this go out of postion. It will cost you a ton of money in the long run when you run into higher flushes and pairs with higher kickers etc.
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Postby AlamdeaMike » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:58 am

You are right guys. However, I lose more money with hands like QQ than I with suited connectors. I usually will make a loose call like this and fold for a raise.

In a live game last night I had 24s all limped and flopped the mortal nuts (A35o). The turn was a K and the river was a T with no flush posibilities. I could not get anyone to call my river but I won a nice pot.

I only get called when there is a chance of me being beaten. Topic for another time.

Thanks for your comments. Reviews like this help me to improve my game and Lord know I need improvement.
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