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Postby Rhound50 » Sun May 01, 2005 3:59 am

This is a home game hand, hero has $140 in front of him, the two other players have around the same amount. Hero looks down at KK on the button. 4 limpers, Hero raises to $5 which is 10X BB, gets 3 callers. Flop is 1032 rainbow, player 1 leads out and bets $8. Player 1 is a LAG but a very good LAG, he consistanly destorys the game. Player 2, is another solid agressive winning player. Player 2 bumps to to $28. This sucks because in a really soft game, the hero is up against the only two good player in the game? What do you do here with KK?
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Postby Smokin'Al » Sun May 01, 2005 7:16 am

What are P1 and P2 stack sizes?

Assuming they have you covered...

I think the two most likely possibilities here are
(1) P2 has you crushed
(2) P2 has sort of forgotten about you, and is raising to isolate a LAG you might lead with any two cards (eg in case you have AK), in which case he'll mave JT or AT.

How about calling P2, and folding to any big action on the turn or behind you on the flop?

You lose $33 in (1), and in (2) P2 likely slows down on the turn ... say you win $50 odd. There are not too many free cards that hurt you (and you're planning to fold to big bets anyway)

If based on your read of P2, (2) is less likely, then fold.

[EDIT] (1) is less likely than (2) I think, since if P2 calls you're v likely to raise; whereas his raise has a good chance of blowing you off most hands. I still just call here, but am more likely to call or raise the turn.

[EDIT2] What is the max buyin, if any? If it's $50 and any weak players have you covered, then fold.
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Postby iceman5 » Sun May 01, 2005 7:53 am

I lay it down. If the game is soft as most home games, then you'll find many other better spots against the other guys.

If these were 2 of the bad players, that would be a different story, but a bet and raise in front of you with that board either means one of them has a set...or theyre not as good as you think and if so, you'll get the money later.
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