Both villains are very loose and prone to raising. 60%VPIP and 20% pfr (6-max)

I love to call pfr with SC. How would you play it on the flop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed)

MP ($45.58)
Button ($52.20)
Hero ($60.48)
BB ($45.22)
UTG ($23.32)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , . Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG raises to $2, MP calls $2, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($6.50) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG raises to $5, MP calls $5, Hero ????

I call this if MP had folded but he may be on nut flush draw, you've got 9 outs to the flush, 2 more for any four. 11 outs roughly 3.2:1 You're calling $3 to win $16.50 thats more than 5:1. I don't think you get implied odds here since any card that helps you also makes your hand obvious but pot odds are good enough here. Decision is if flush hits you may have to fold to MP. I know the experts are going to tell you to dump this but it sure is hard.

Based on Ice's previous post you may be better off pushing here. I know that's really what your asking because I know that you know pot odds. I think it makes perfect sense, since your probably the favorite before the turn without MP. Pushing may get MP out of the hand(he's loose but is he a calling station) and leave you HU with UTG and it eleminates making a decision when you miss the turn. But I haven't been able to pull the trigger myself when in this situation. I like to be able to lay this down if the board pairs since he's representing a set/two pair.

I like the 1/3 pot raise on the flop, I usually go 1/2 to 2/3, but this is what gets you to the pot odds you need and some what hides your hand if hit on the turn giving you some implied odds. Too bad MP called that really ruins this situation for me.

TURN--is 4[d] giving me the nut str8 and still a flush draw. Hero goes first. What do you bet?

I check-raise all in here, I think your flop bet and their aggression guarantees a defensive bet here. I think that pushing on the flop is more EV+ since the board is now scary to TPTK/Big PP. I think you stack at least one of them pre-turn but now you only pick up the bets before you check raise. Fold equity is much greater here because more times than not they fold but you don’t want fold equity when you have the nuts you want callers without pot odds.

Edit: This is Party so you have the muppet factor as well. They can't believe you have the straight because you called the preflop raise and if one of them is on the flush draw they chase to the river even if they have to risk their entire stack.

why are you only betting $2 on the flop?

i think its a big reraise on the action so far.

I planned to CR all-in but noticed stack sizes and opted for a $7 (about 1/3 pot) knowing that UTG would probably push because of his short stack and MP might call since it looks like a pot committed push.

Both pushed and I called. River brought the flush (ugh), but my read was correct and I won.
UTG
MP

If I had it to do over, I think I might have pushed on the flop. I think this post is more about how to misplay big pairs than my great play.

Tim

Tim, your play is proof is not all about the numbers but alot about awareness/gut feel. Great read and play.