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Postby Johnny Hughes » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:27 am

Thursday, I lost $1000, my biggest one day or week or month loss in a few years. Nothing worked out. On one hand I had pocket fours. The flop came 7,7,2. A loose player with A,Q bet forty at a hundred dollar pot. I read the situation correctly, moved in and he drew out. This put me down about five hundred, my first pull out. I bought another five hundred and rocked up and down a little for a few hours.

Then I called the ten dollar blind with 10,9 off suit on the button. The flop came 9,9,3 and all four players checked. Then it came an Ace and all checked to me. I bet forty and one of the best players I have ever seen smooth called in front of me. Then a 10 came filling me up. The board was A,10,9,9,3. He bet $100 and I raised $240. He studied a long time and asked if I had two tens. I began to have that sinking feeling. He had Ace, Nine and a bigger full and called. Should I have raised or just called the $100?

I'll take an indefinate period of time away from poker. I had planned trips to Oklahoma or New Mexico but I am on the bench like a baseball pitcher.

Every thing went wrong. On one hand I had A,Q against Q,10 and a flop of Q,2,2,.We move it to the center. He caught the case Queen for a split of about six hundred. One comic pot I won and I overlooked my hand. I had 2,4 of spades on the button but thought I had 3,4 of spades. I called twenty with eight in the pot. (You can see where my discipline level had dropped to.) The flop came 7,7,3. All checked. It came a 3 and all checked. I bet fifty and won the $160 pot.
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Postby T-Rod » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:39 am

Sorry to hear about the Thursday loss. I know you've heard it before, but it happens to the best of us as part of the swings.

Your play doesn't seem that bad, just unlucky. On your 10,9 hand, I have no problem with your raise. He checked trips and then a full? I'd have put him on a 9 when I bet your 240 but not A9. After his comments, yeah its probably A9 but doesn't mean your bet was bad.

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Postby Smokin'Al » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:48 am

Is $1000 really your worst downswing?! I've lost that in a $200NL session.

Rather than being commiserating, I'm just really impressed you can play $5/$10 with so little variance... I guess that's what comes from being a good person reader in live play?
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Postby Johnny Hughes » Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:44 pm

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Postby Rhound50 » Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:38 pm

"Its a pink handbag not backpack damn it." Godlikeroy

"From playing full tilt I wanna smash every garden gnome I see. That travelocity commercial puts me on instant tilt."
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Postby AlexMR » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:46 pm

If I win 95% of the times with a full house and I find someone willing to play for the whole stack when i have one, even when it s a small one, I am in. If he has a bigger one, so be it. There is no way I am not pushing if I think he is going to call, even when I feel he has me beat. happens to me that with a full house, I put other people on a higher one more often than they really are.

I wouldve been stacked for sure in that T9 and wouldnt even be sad about it. i think it s the correct move, but if you are a super reader and can spot that 5%, it might be worth trying to lay it down... I just dont see it.

BTW, that 95% is the stats I have in my PT database, dont know if it s the correct number.

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Postby Johnny Hughes » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:14 am

There is no max buy in. That was my biggest loss in the last year. Everyone buys two hundred to start and later people buy five hundred. The reason that I have never had a day that bad in a year is that I only play three or four hours. My swings at no limit are not great. I have many many wins that are under two hundred. Losses may be $100 with only a few losses all year of over five. This is money management. It may not be good money management. My general rule is to go home if I lose five hundred or quit any game including Vegas. I usually don't carry over five hundred and going above that requires borrowing which is not hard.

In two five no limit, I have between two hundred and a thousand in front of me. In Vegas, I'll start with four hundred regardless of what the other people do. This sets a limit on how much you can win or lose in one hand.

Poker is about comfort and enjoyment. Most of the time that I am sitting at a table, I am winner for the day, week, month, year, and last half century. I keep telling that to myself. When I am having a bad day like that, I am uncomfortable and unhappy and should have accepted the loss at five hundred and gone on home. During the second five hundred, I was not playing as well.

Usually I determine my quitting time based on the chip count and presence of lighter players. The game I have been playing in has some of the toughest players anywhere.

Although it is hard to do in the heat of battle, I should have analyzed the hand and not raised at the end because I was up against a world class expert player who sets traps.
There isn't any hand he could have that he would call on unless he beat me.
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