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HEY, He checkraised my Rockets!

Postby Kowskie » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:01 am

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Postby ua1176 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:17 am

well...the obvious hands are AK or KK. to me, preflop + flop look like AK. why would villain reveal his strength that early on top set? you re-raised the pot....it's not like he needs to push out a drawing hand...and if he puts you on AA he knows just how slim he has you drawing. the turn check is scary and the river bet is pretty serious....but at that point...i'm getting 2.5 to 1 on my money and i seriously consider calling.

other more distant possibilities worth considering: he's got the other AA. or he's one of those guys that will raise 99 UTG.

i personally think the best play would have been to check behind on the flop and then raise the turn. i think that adequately communicates your holdings as "AA or set" and then you know where you stand if he pushes.

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Postby ale_k300 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:15 am

Well here i think a lot depends on the flavor of the other player. ( PT i love you )

And it is really is hard to do something here, if he has a set... why is he raising you on the a flavourless flop , where he can't be scared of things like a straight or a flush draw???

If i was him holding a set here i will just call your flop bet and probably raise your ass on the turn, or if you check probably bet the pot. ( and this probably i was what any good player will do holding a set here ).

so i got the feeling that he was holding A/K and hoping that u reraised the flop with something like QQ.

my 2 cents.
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Postby k3nt » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:18 am

Hero played it passively and so has to call the river.

The following hands raise preflop to $4 regularly: AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK, AQ.
Other possibilities: any two big cards, suited connectors

Of all those hands, the only ones that beat you are KK, TT, T9.
99 77 and 44 possible but unlikely.

Gotta call.
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Postby T-Rod » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:01 am

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Postby Tiburon » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:02 am

I think he has AK. Why? I'll detail my thoughts.

UTG raise to $4: What type of read do you have on this player? TAG? LAG? If he's tight, I figure him for AA, AK, KK, or QQ. This is very read dependent.

He calls your re-raise to $10: This reinforces the above. If he re-raised, he's trying to represent AA (IMHO).

On the flop, the pot is $21.50. You bet slightly less than full pot, and he raises you to the full pot.

He then checks, looking to induce a bet perhaps for a second check-raise. He is disappointed when you don't fire out.

On the river, he pushes. Believe me, he wasn't pushing with TT. You've played him passively, and he takes a shot at the big pot by pushing. He figures the same thing. Only AA or KK "beat him." Unfortunately, you have one of those hands. It's the kind of hand you go with your gut. My gut says AK, and if I'm wrong, I lose a stack. I think only KK realistically beats you, unless he completely sucked it out with QJ, and if he does, nothing you do makes the outcome different, and you need to tag this guy for your buddy list.

I agree--you have to call.
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Postby briachek » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:26 am

first, you reraised too little preflop IMO so he could be calling with a much wider variety of hands. However, I put him on AK.

He checkraised the flop to find out just how strong you are and wasn't happy when you called the raise. However, you then checked behind on the turn indicating weakness and probably something like QQ that you can't let go. With the way you played it, i think you have to call that river.

Also, since you didn't reraise that much preflop, he could have hands like JTs or something and flopped a double gutshot.
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Postby Kowskie » Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:51 pm

Well, Tiburon was correct. Although I played the hand badly and it was a difficult hand for me he sucked it out with QJ for the rivered gutshot. Probably check-raised the flop in the hope that I would lay down a QQ type hand and then I gave him his magic fee card.
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Postby T-Rod » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:39 pm

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Postby briachek » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:47 pm

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