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Postby Soul » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:27 pm

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed)

UTG+1 ($84.65)
Hero ($101.50)
MP2 ($56.90)
MP3 ($106.85)
CO ($88.85)
Button ($91.70)
SB ($138.35)
BB ($35.20)
UTG ($29.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Kc], [Ad].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, MP3 calls $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $3.

Flop: ($17.50) [7d], [6d], [4c] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10, MP3 raises to $20, CO folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($57.50) [6h] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $30, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $87.50

I know I played this horribly, how should I have played it?
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:34 pm

I think its -EV to bet into 3 callers with an unimproved AK. Check/fold the flop.
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Postby Soul » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:37 pm

would you bet with 2 callers? Or only 1?
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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:43 pm

Ice is probably right, but if you DO decide to bet into 3 callers (and I often do) then you can't call a raise because by calling you're revealing your hand. You either fold or raise. With your call you're chasing your 6 outs, all of which may be dead, without the odds and probably with reverse implied odds.
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Postby Soul » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:52 pm

I I usually don't call that raise, but I thought his miniraise was a bluff. I should have let it go anyway I guess...
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Postby Stoneburg » Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:56 pm

You can't call because if it IS a bluff you're going to let him steal on the turn if an A or K doesn't hit, and if it ISN'T you're drawing slim or dead. Which is why you need to raise or fold. If I were him I could do this with JJ or 98s, either way, you calling is a losing proposition because he has position on you.
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Postby Soul » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:06 pm

That's a great analysis of the situation. And very helpful to me, thanks.
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Postby iceman5 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:56 pm

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Postby T-Rod » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:36 am

Soul,

I agree with Ice about not betting into 3 callers. I do it only occasionally and that's if I know 2 of the 3 are weak tight or something extra special like that.

I did notice another comment you made though about thinking his min raise was a bluff.

I cannot tell you how much $ that thought process has cost me.

Did you have some info you didn't post to lead you to believe that? (Assuming no other info) You cannot really think his min raise was a bluff because you didn't bet the pot on the flop. If you had BTP (i.e., shown big strength) and he still min raised you, fine then you can fold knowing that if he can raise in the face of your strength, then he probably has it. However, the way you bet it, there's no real way to know since I would consider your flop bet fairly weak.

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