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AK..1st 2 hands at table

Postby iceman5 » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:32 am

$200 NL AT Tribeca. My first 2 hands at the table I get AK in each blind

#1) Im the BB with [Ad][Ks]. 2 limpers and I raise to $12. UTG ($119) calls.

Pot $27. Flop [Ah][Qs][2d]. I bet $20 and he calls.
Pot $67. Turn [5h]. I check and he checks behind
Pot $67. River [5c]. I bet $34.....Thoughts. Standard?

#2) Very next hand. Button ($310) raises to $6. I decide to just call with [Ac][Kh]. BB also calls (same guy from last hand)

Pot $18 Flop [Kc][5d][2c]. I lead $14. BB folds and button calls.
Pot $44. Turn [6s]. I bet $30 and he calls.
Pot $104. River [9s]. Do you bet this?

Bonus hand

I raise $7 with [As][Kh] on different table. Button ($173) and BB ($300) call.

Pot $22. Flop [Ad][Qh][7c]. BB checks, I bet $15. Button calls and BB folds.
Pot $52. Turn [Jd]. I check, he bets $32. Whats my play?
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:42 am

Poker is silly.

It is not enough to be good at chess, you must also play well.

Somewhere in the world someone is training when you are not. When you race him, he will win.

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Postby Zmej » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:46 am

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Postby iceman5 » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:30 am

Bonus hand....I mostly agree that reraising is better because I will normally either take it down preflop or on the flop, but I think that if a K flops, I make alot more money by just calling preflop. I mean, the only way the pots gonna get big and Im gonna win is if he has KQ / KJ.

If I reraise preflop, he probably folds KQ and almost certainly KJ, so I cant make any money by flopping a K. If that pot gets big in araised and reraised pot, I think he has AK or AA ( or maybe KK).

I can also, just call preflop and lead just about any flop and that way if he has nothing, he folds, just like he wouldve if I reraised preflop. The only way I get hurt is if I just call preflop and he has something like J9s and I lead a Jxx flop and he calls when he wouldve folded to a reraise preflop, but even then Im only losing about $6 + $14 or $20.

If I reraise preflop to $20 and then CB the flop and he has a big hand Im going to lose alot more than $20 so i think those 2 scenarios (him having a big hand vs him having a hand he wouldve folded preflop if I reraised).

So what Im saying is the only way it makes a big difference is if a K flops and the pot gets big. I think by not reraising, odds are better I have the best hand than if I had reraised preflop and the pot got big.

having said all that, I do reraise preflop probably 75% of the time, but mainly its to stop them from raising my blind too much. At Tribeca though, the preflop raises are much less frequent than at UB or other sites.
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Postby GodlikeRoy » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:45 am

I agree with calling preflop in position, and I will do this a decent amount of the time (usually vs tight opponents who will fold to my 3bets with AT-AQ or KJ-KQ) as you will almost always extract more from them when the flop is A or K high and they have Ax/Kx. Against better opponents however it's hard to extract too much against TPWK and they may even be able to push you off your hand - however since we're talking tribeca here this discussion may all be moot, there really aren't many good aggressive/positional players there.

At stars however, if I do think about flat-calling with AK preflop, i'm much more likely to do so in position than OOP. I'm the same with AQ/AJ if the raise is from the CO/BTN and i'm in a blind.
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Postby Smokin'Al » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:49 am

Hand 1: Wow, at 200NL this is 2/3 pot, 1/2 pot, push (or whatever you need for his stack) every time. Especially against a short stack.

He'll have ace rag a good % of the time.

At 400NL I'll check turn a lot more (though not against a shortie).

Hand 2: bet every time, after a bit of a pause. He'll have a weak K a good % of the time, not many draws he'd have called the turn with.

Bonus hand: check-call down? That J is not a nice card for your hand.
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