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Postby shamdonk » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:59 am

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Ah], [Kh].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) [8c], [Qd], [9c] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero folds


Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with [Kc], [Ac].
Hero raises, 5 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) [7d], [Qs], [7s] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) [9h] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.75 BB



Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Kd], [Ad].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 6 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) [2h], [9c], [3h] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) [Js] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.75 BB


Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with [Ad], [Kd].
6 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) [Jh], [8s], [9d] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) [5s] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5 BB

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [Ad], [Kc].
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises, MP calls, CO calls, SB folds.

Flop: (7 SB) [7d], [Qh], [Js] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, CO folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) [2h] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) [Qc] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB



Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [Ah], [Ks].
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (9 SB) [4h], [2d], [Ts] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero folds, MP1 folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 5 BB



Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [Ks], [Ad].
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) [4d], [6s], [Ts] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) [3s] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (4.50 BB) [7d] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB


I know these are alot of hands but how are you supposed to play AK unimproved. I saw some articles on remmy saying to not overplay it. I know I need 6:1 to call but am I too tight in these spots?

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Postby The Golden 1 » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:02 am

You should be raising AK preflop everytime and capping it if needed.
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Postby redhouse » Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:08 am

Postflop, whiffed overcards are big leak if you don't know what you're doing. I've tried to nail it down for quite a while and still get confused. I recommend reading some of the threads in the 6-max sticky.

And here are a couple of articles by Jason Pohl

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/arch ... pohl16.htm
http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/arch ... pohl17.htm
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Postby redhouse » Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:17 am

Also from Hypermegachi's 6-max guide (may not apply to full ring)

Overcards from EP
These are a bastard to play early position, being you cannot use the freecard and free
showdown plays. Needless to say, if the board is very ragged, I will try for a check raise, and bet out on the turn, and hope they fold. If the check raise fails, and the turn doesn't help, then well you're screwed . Depending on your reads you may choose to bet out, or check fold. If the board is coordinated, I will check/fold, knowing there's too many ways I can be beat.

From MP
Again these are difficult to play. Basically same ideas as being in early position. If early
position bets, either raise (for free card/free showdown) or fold.

From LP (for all weak draws)
I like to bet these when it's checked to me, usually for the free card. This applies for gutshots and overcards, although I'll do the free showdown with overcards rather than the free card.

Draw your own conclusions.
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Postby Derk » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:32 am

I'd probably play these a lot different. Here's what I'd do:

First hand: This is pretty dangerous. Someone likely has the flush draw, and someone might already have JT. I'd stick around for the turn, but if you don't improve there or if it gets raised after you call, fold.

Second hand: The guy doesn't have trips, stick around for the turn. He might check over to you (missed flush draw) and you can push.

Third hand: This is close between raising on the flop and folding. The pot is small, but if you have some sort of read on the guy you can try for a free card on the turn.

Fourth hand: Why are you checking here? Arrrrrrrgh. Play more aggressively.

Fifth hand: Dump it earlier. The pot is small and with two face cards it's likely he already has a pair.

Sixth hand: Raise after the flop, if just to isolate the guy heads up, but you can possibly get a free card here on the turn.

Seventh hand: Works for me.

The one piece of advice I keep coming back to is something from Sklansky. It's better to lose a bet than lose a pot. Don't be stupid, but keep an eye on pot size and how coordinated the flop is when playing two overcards.
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